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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2013, 09:01:18 PM »
True... but conversely, we would also have Asami in a lesbian relationship, showing the other side of the coin as a very feminine, girly woman.  It would be an interesting dichotomy to explore, if they took the time to showcase that you can't peg people's sexual orientation based solely on their external personality quirks.

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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2013, 01:09:59 AM »


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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2013, 01:55:16 AM »


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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2013, 04:04:25 AM »


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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2013, 04:12:27 AM »
Eh. I'll always be a friendship Korrasami fan! Anything more than that is not my style.

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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2013, 11:04:06 PM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2013, 09:27:50 AM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2013, 09:40:00 AM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2013, 09:57:00 PM »
I still want a legitimate reason why Korrasami can't be canon.

A real legitimate reason. Which character it'd be OOC for, why it wouldn't work in text, etc

Because so far all I hear is "KIDS CAN'T KNOW GAY EXISTS". D:


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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2013, 10:03:50 PM »
I still want a legitimate reason why Korrasami can't be canon.

A real legitimate reason. Which character it'd be OOC for, why it wouldn't work in text, etc

Because so far all I hear is "KIDS CAN'T KNOW GAY EXISTS". D:
Because Asami and Korra aren't Homosexuals. (They might be in a perverted 14 year old boy's fanfiction. But not their real characters.)
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It would be OOC for BOTH of them. They simply have a gal pal relationship.
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2013, 02:24:27 AM »
I'll repeat what I said over on Amira's place:

Sexuality is not black and white.  It's not just "You are heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual and there's no in-between."  There are all kinds of shades of grey in between.  I'll use the ruler example again: if you look on a ruler, and the 0 mark is "exclusively attracted to men" and the 10 mark is "exclusively attracted to women," people can fall anywhere on that scale.  For example, I'd put myself at about the 1 or 1.5 mark.  I identify as heterosexual because I am predominantly attracted to men, but there have been a handful of rare occasions when I have experienced attraction to women.

I repeat: it's not black and white.

At this point, Korra and Asami have displayed attraction only to men (for that matter, only a single man between the two of them), but that does not mean that they could not experience attraction or romantic feelings for women (specifically, for the purposes of this discussion, each other) as well.  And when one completely disregards gender, the two of them being together is actually a lot more believable than any other pairing thus far presented.  Their personalities and personal histories match together exceptionally well.
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2013, 06:55:14 AM »
First off:  thank you, Melon Lord.

As for Korrasami?  The reason it's not going to happen has nothing to do with the characters' canonical sexuality.  It's not going to happen because Nickelodeon wouldn't dare, for fear of bringing down the wrath of the self-proclaimed moral guardians. 

But...really, it's true:  They've come off more compatible with each other than either of them has with Mako (who, after all, is the only eligible boy whom the narrative has treated as desirable or even relevant).
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2013, 08:52:55 AM »
Regardless, I shall continue to ship Korrasami because, quite frankly, in terms of compatibility, they are 100% more logical and believable a relationship than anything that has a prayer of becoming canon (because let's be realistic, as much as I love both Borra and Bosami, the odds of either being canon at this point are slim-to-none and the same goes for Irohsami... and we all know my current feelings on Makorra). 

I have a few guidelines for fanon shipping. The situation has to meet at least one (or all) of the following requirements:

1- There are no canon pairings.
2- I completely and thoroughly despise the canon pairings.
3- The pairing must be at least reasonably compatible (this is most important).
4- I'm pretty sure there's a fourth one but it's almost 4am and I've been up for too many hours straight and I can't think of it right now.

Obviously there are canon pairings (with the same dude) involved here. But I do not like either Makorra or Masami (though the latter was moderately tolerable). Therefore, Korrasami satisfies condition #2. It also satisfies condition #3, in that Korra and Asami have awesome chemistry and are completely compatible. And if I ever remember what the fourth condition was, I'll be able to see if Korrasami fits that, too.

But it still stands- given the complete lack of palatable canon pairings, I am perfectly happy to deeply adore Korrasami until such time as canon gives me a reason to revise my opinion (and even then I'll still adore Korrasami, but I won't be quite as upset at the US's homophobia for rendering it a near-impossibility as I currently am).

Also, on an entirely unrelated and thoroughly shallow note... Korrasami is easily the most visually appealing ship possible. Seriously. Consider every available option among the young LoK characters. Korrasami still looks the best together.

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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2013, 09:01:35 AM »
Also, on an entirely unrelated and thoroughly shallow note... Korrasami is easily the most visually appealing ship possible. Seriously. Consider every available option among the young LoK characters. Korrasami still looks the best together.
Let's be real here.

Korrasami is the perfect start for homosexuality in more youth-oriented media because it would be two sexy ladies, and lesbianism has been the fairer homosexuality in the public's eye for years now. It would probably elicit a far less poisonous response than a male/male relationship in the show. If having homosexual relationships in TLOK is a place we're willing to go, this route would easily be safest.

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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2013, 09:30:15 AM »
To me, that's always been the problem. There isn't that much representation in pop-culture of people finding their own sexuality as they mature. That's why you're able to say "They couldn't get together without it debasing their characters, they've only ever been with a man." We have this idea that you're either gay or straight, that you just come out of the womb that way. Plenty of people in our culture don't really see homosexuals as real people who grew up, it's like they're these archetypes that live in a vacuum, they just flutter into the scene periodically 'as a gay'; they aren't treated like human beings who had to go through plenty of experiences in order to get to this specific stage in their development. In reality, people are fluid, they have relationships and then they can change as they mature. People don't really like getting too much into that because they see it as too much work, or they simply don't want to deal with it, and thus it just goes primarily unaddressed and ignorance marches on to the simplest drumbeat.

If The Legend of Korra were to allow Korrasami to happen naturally as proposed, I'd support it fully. It's high time that homosexuality stops being a character trait to just slap on just because actually looking at the issues and the real people involved is too scary.
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2013, 09:36:14 AM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2013, 09:41:12 AM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2013, 10:02:05 AM »
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2013, 10:07:10 AM »
Really? I honestly don't watch much TV about teenagers and sexuality, because I find it a boring topic, (but that's just my personal story preferences). But from what I've snipped of watching my sister watch teenage shows, like Glee, there are quite a few characters who were formerly straight, and then later were in a homosexual relationship and realized they preferred the same sex to the opposite sex. It's probably realistic, I think it is realistic, but it's not how I prefer to see sexuality presented.

Or rather, to specify: I'd like to see the Avatar franchise deal with other sexualities than plain straight, but I'd like it to be presented as a normal thing, something you should be confident about and celebrate - something that's exactly as worthy as homosexuality.

I would like the show to have a role-model - someone that could inspire people to follow their hearts and sexuality. I do think that sexuality is confusing to young people - it will probably be regardless of what we present it as, but I'd rather have fiction showing the good sides of it, showing why it's something you shouldn't hide or be embarrassed about, instead of presenting it as an angsty teenage phrase that bring you nothing but confusion and misery.

In short, I'd like to see someone who's beyond the doubt; someone who is gay, and is confident and happy about who they are. Hell, it could even be someone who's bisexual - I'd just rather see them celebrating their sexuality, than angsting over it.
That is a good character to have around, but I don't like the feeling I get from them being the only one around. Then it just feels like throwing in a character for the sake of having one there, like having a token black kid. He/she could help provide guidance to said teenagers as they try to find themselves, and that could work great. Like I said, they should be treated like human beings. They can have a role model, they deserve one, but there are also plenty of things interlaced with this issue that deserve not to get shoved under the rug and ignored.

That's why you're able to say "They couldn't get together without it debasing their characters, they've only ever been with a man."

But that has nothing to do with homosexuality. I use precisely the same argument to argue why, as it is, Korra and Iroh is OOC. Why Borra is one-sided. Why you can't make a homosexual character heterosexual just because you'd like to pair them off with someone of the opposite sex.

Sexuality, regardless of preferences, is a part of characterization. You can't just toss it around as you please, without breaking the actual presentation. That's attraction to characters we've never seen them attracted to before, that's attraction to types a character has never found appealing, and that's breaking or altering a sexuality. I don't approve of character-altering on the reasoning of shipping, and I never have in any situation.

What I was trying to say: As it is, Korrasami is OOC, because we haven't seen the slightest hint that either of them is attracted to girls, but it's not necessary unrealistic that they could be, if the writers chose to go there. But it's requiring that the writers do go there, and show us a basis for a relationship.

There isn't even an argument being had here, as this is exactly what we're saying. If the writers were to will it so, I would support it. We're simply stating the fact that there is potential for the writers to realistically go that route if they had the permission.
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http://thekorraconnection.com/index.php?topic=341.msg38487#msg38487
^^the post I was referring to.
Ah, I thought it might be that! xD
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Re: Korrasami
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2013, 04:49:12 PM »
But what if there was a homosexual teenage relationship without a whole lost of angst involved? The politics of this world are different from the real world. Who knows, that world may be completely accepting of those who don't identify as 100% straight. Because their problems fall on such a larger scale that being homophobic would seem petty in the grand scheme of things. So for one to come out of the closet or get with a significant other of the same sex may not be as big a deal and treated the same as a hetero relationship.

Which would be even better on the writers' part. To show that it's normal to not always be straight, that sometimes attraction takes you elsewhere.  In this day and age a lot of kids have gay/bi parents, siblings, or are even discovering it about each other. So to see it portrayed for once as something normal NOT to angst over, would work really well.

It'd be great if both girls tell Mako to screw off because he's too immature for the both of them and in their time of bonding Korrasami blossoms. Because aside from Tenzin, Asami is still the only character I can see who can truly help Korra and keep her grounded.


 

       
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