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Title: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 04, 2013, 07:17:02 AM
Because I do so dearly love my crackship, I figured I should start a thread for it.  Just in case anyone else would like to help me helm the S.S. Teo Lee.  And to help with that, I'm going to explain the thought process that led me to decide that Teo and Ty Lee clearly belong together.

It started when I had the vague idea that Teo (who with his airbender spirit was clearly Aang's very earliest inspiration for the society of Air Acolytes) could possibly be Pema's father.  It was a weird thought, an unlikely thought, and I did realize that he would have had to have this daughter later in life, at least into his forties, for the ages to work... but the idea stuck.  How poetic would it be if the daughter of the original steward of Air Nomad spirit actually became the mother of the new race of airbenders?

And that led me to wonder... who would Pema's mother be, if Teo were really her father?  And at first I was like "eh, some random Earth Kingdom girl or maybe one of the Acolytes."  And then one day I was talking about how Ty Lee obviously has airbender blood in her ancestry somewhere... and something just clicked.

Teo is Almost An Airbender.  Ty Lee is Almost An Airbender.

And even though they've never met, the more I think about their personalities, she bright and bubbly and a little bit silly and he steady and brave and reliable, but both of them with that same wild, free spirit to them... something about it just seemed to make sense.  They're so different, and yet so very much the same.

So now here I am, and I ship them like WHOA.  And while I will cling to my headcanon of them being the other set of grandparents to the airbabies until the world falls down (or, more accurately, until Bryke tells me not to), it's not even just that anymore.  But bearing that in mind... it would be kind of perfect if the new generation of airbenders were born of the blood of all four nations. POETRY, YO.

Also, if Ty Lee were the airbabies grandma... THIS EXPLAINS IKKI.

But even outside of that, there's just something really really awesome about Teo Lee, to me.  Anybody else agree?

*crickets*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Blu on January 04, 2013, 11:55:37 AM
Maybe she could like, try and heal his legs by like, unblocking his chi or something.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: bombalurima on January 04, 2013, 10:16:32 PM
I love this! All of this is 1000/10. I'm still pretty attached to Ty Laru (don't ask me why, it's all thanks to "School Time Shipping"), but this is definitely cute. <3
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 04, 2013, 10:23:21 PM
That's definitely cute, too, but I always felt like (although it was definitely adorable in STS) Haru just didn't have enough of a personality to attract a girl who's as absurdly full of personality as Ty Lee (although the 'Stache of Destiny does give him some points).  Teo has the same steadiness of character that Haru does (which would definitely be good for someone like Ty Lee), but he also has a lot more spunk and spark to him, and I can see her being drawn to that.

And of course, what guy wouldn't fall all over himself for the chance to be with Ty Lee? But Teo's always been insightful, and I think he'd really see her and not just her pretty face.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: bombalurima on January 04, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
although the 'Stache of Destiny does give him some points).

XDDD Pretty much!

But you make some great points thar...I am totally on board the S.S. Teo Lee! I've always thought Teo is just an adorable little creature and so is Ty Lee, so consider me a member. He does have just the right amount of spunk--enough to keep up with Ty Lee, but not so much as to be just like her. XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 04, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
I'm working on a Teo Lee vidlet.  It's angsty (because I'm playing on the whole they're-on-opposite-sides-of-a-huge-freaking-war thing) so I probably won't put it up until I have a happy one to counter it with, but so far it's adorable.  It would be significantly better if I had a significantly less sucky editing program, but when you're working on a Mac, there's not much you can do but sigh sadly and wish you could afford an adaptation of Sony Vegas...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 04, 2013, 10:39:24 PM
...you have me intrigued.


I would very much like to lurk moar in this thread, and absorb further arguments in favor (or against?) this ship. Don't mind me while I listen and stroke my non-existent beard in the corner.

(I wonder though: if she couldn't heal him, would Ty Lee deal with Teo's condition well? Then again, might be something poetically beautiful about the prettiest girl in the room giving her love to the polar opposite of the buff pretty boys...)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Fourtune on January 05, 2013, 10:47:19 AM
Then again, might be something poetically beautiful about the prettiest girl in the room giving her love to the polar opposite of the buff pretty boys...

Not to mention it's actually consistent with her character. Remember, in the series she possesses a mild crush (some would include the word 'stalker' in the middle of that) on Sokka, who, while yeah, he's the most likely of the 100% consistent good guys to be deemed "The Hot One" by certain ladies here and elsewhere, doesn't have the stereotypical look (especially for Fire Nation, though that goes without saying) that a lot of Ty Lee's more popular suitors do.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 05, 2013, 01:03:34 PM
And it's also important to remember that, despite being a bit of an airhead, Ty Lee is amazingly un-superficial. Because she herself hates being overlooked as just another face in the crowd, she tends to look deeper at people and find things about them that are more important than the surface stuff.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Fourtune on January 05, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Exactly. The whole "auras" thing, however much of that is legit vs. just the way her own mind works, practically demands that she takes a deeper look at people after awhile. And let's be real, she is so much smarter than the average valley girl. She didn't have rose-colored glasses about Azula (see being freely able to tell her that she "probably would do something horrible to them" as part of a conversation at a party), cares about Zuko from the bit we see of their interaction, and is loyal enough to Mai, dreary ninjaness and all, who you would think is her total opposite (she's really not, though), that she would put herself on the chopping block to save her life.

Also, must stress. By "popular" I meant that in an in-universe sense.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 05, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
These are good points. I continue to be greatly intrigued

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mczhz4vJFZ1qlixxho1_500.gif)

I too have noticed Ty Lee may look and sound like a "valley girl", but she doesn't really act like one. Not in some important ways, anyway.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 06, 2013, 12:51:01 AM
The whole "auras" thing, however much of that is legit vs. just the way her own mind works, practically demands that she takes a deeper look at people after awhile.

^^Yes. This. Exactly.

Ty Lee is so much more tuned in to what's going on than people think.  She's an airhead in the same way Aang's a goofball: it has an off switch. She floats around through her life because she likes to be happy, but that doesn't mean that she's oblivious or ditzy. But we've seen on more than one occasion that she's so much deeper than a lot of the fandom gives her credit for.  I swear, every time I watch The Beach, in that moment when she looks up at Zuko and says, dead serious, "I know you."  ...chills, man.

In a lot of ways, she's actually a lot like Mai in that regard- they both seem like they wouldn't (Ty Lee because everyone assumes she doesn't think and Mai because she deliberately fades into the background), but they both see so much more than what they let on.  And because of that, I can't help but think that she would look at Teo and not see a crippled kid, she'd see a very good-natured, intelligent guy with a zany streak and a generous spirit.

And as for Teo... well, we don't know him as well as we know her, obviously. But from what we know of him, I can really see him as the kind of boy who appreciates people for who they are, nothing more and nothing less, which is something Miss "I didn't want to spend the rest of my life as part of a matched set" would really value in a partner.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 11, 2013, 04:06:43 AM
So...is there fic for this ship yet? Because I might be interested in it, if there were. It's rapidly growing on me.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 11, 2013, 04:18:36 AM
I'm working on one right now.  Actually, I have a few half-written ones, but I wanted to wait until after I put out the next chapter of Fireflight to complete any of them.  So... watch my tumblr.  A gift/promptfic for Shiney should be showing up there sometime tonight.
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Firstly... have some crappy photoshop.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b9d85c8529ef2b271ae3fe6badce509b/tumblr_mgg8hbZhyU1rmb1syo1_500.png)

Secondly... have some crappy fic (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8896804/1/Rosetta).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Secrets on January 11, 2013, 11:59:51 PM
I'm more of a Teoji and Ty Laru shipper. This never crossed my mind, but from all of the points made in this thread, it's definitely something I can imagine happening. I think they'd be cute together, especially since they both have a love for freedom and fun.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 12, 2013, 01:53:27 AM
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"Maybe this sounds silly," she said, still with that pretty pink color staining her cheeks, "but... well, you actually listen when I talk."

And strangely enough, Teo thought maybe he was finally starting to understand Ty Lee.

....congratulations Melon.

That passage right there, form your supposedly "crappy" writing, just clinched it. I ship it.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 05:18:49 AM
Success!

Now if I could just convince Bryke to ship it...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Fenix on January 12, 2013, 05:24:23 AM
Much like everyone else, I am suddenly very intrigued by this ship.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: bombalurima on January 12, 2013, 05:36:49 AM
In a lot of ways, she's actually a lot like Mai in that regard- they both seem like they wouldn't (Ty Lee because everyone assumes she doesn't think and Mai because she deliberately fades into the background), but they both see so much more than what they let on. 

Oh god, I just had a fangirl moment. *heart palpitations*

...I almost want to write for this couple. It's been a while since I've dabbled in any endeavors with any characters that weren't of my own creation though, so I'm daunted...but if the inspiration/courage ever hits me, I'll have to give it a shot!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 06:02:34 AM
Oh my gosh bombalurima, you should! I'm sure it would be excellent and the world needs more Teo Lee in it!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 07:43:49 AM
Ain't that the truth!

Also, I'm writing an epic-length Teo Lee fic! I'm not gonna post a bit of it until it's more than half done, because I don't want to have too many posted projects ongoing at once (two WIPs is more than enough!), but I'm gonna write on it when I get the time.  And my god, it's good!  It features all my OTP's: Teo Lee, Kataang, Mai/Ruling the Fire Nation (also Maiko, but mostly just Mai taking up the throne when Zuko goes missing)... it's gonna be gorgeous.  And long. Because I just need to write a really long story that takes the time to really delve into the nitty-gritty of a romance between the chi-blocker and the son of the Mechanist... while also featuring a really awesome and convoluted A-plot!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 07:57:08 AM
It will certainly be canon-compliant, in that it takes place several years after the time period specified in The Search (I'm guessing at around the time that Aang would be about 17, though I haven't totally made up my mind) and isn't going to alter anything we know about LoK.

Basically it's just yet another grand adventure. Your typical "pissed off spirit abducts Zuko, Mai rules the FN in his stead while the Gaang infiltrate the SW to look for him, leaving the world more or less unprotected when a massive rebellion springs up in the northern EK and it's up to the Kyoshi warriors and an amateur inventor whose father's been abducted to save the day" type story.  Basically three plotlines in one, really. Mai trying to maintain order in a tense and chaotic FN in the wake of the Fire Lord's disappearance (with a timely assist from Iroh, naturally), Kataang, Sokka, and Toph in the SW looking for Zuko (and trying desperately to figure out what he could have done to get himself kidnapped by a spirit) and Teo and Ty Lee trying to keep an entire EK province from seceding and descending into civil war.

You know, just another day in the Avaverse...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 08:03:12 AM
(By the way, don't stop making sappy manips).

Not until the entire fandom stands before the altar of Teo Lee.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 08:17:30 AM
Shameless enthusiasm is hard to resist... especially when it's for something so boundlessly adorable as Teo Lee!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Secrets on January 12, 2013, 08:19:08 AM
Your sig is very convincing, Miss Melon.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 08:31:18 AM
It's hard to resist adorably sappy manips, is it not?  Or otherwise, depending on the viewer's tolerance for cheesy, the threat of more.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 12, 2013, 02:15:28 PM
That sig is like, Teo is all "yeeeeeeah, buddy, you know you jealous I got the hottest girl in the room" and Ty Lee is like "I <3 my hunk and I want you to know it <3<3<3". I imagine they're at an EIP party, and some guys were giving Teo a hard time, and Ty Lee just sauntered over and showed them under no uncertain terms who she's going home with that evening.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
Now that you've said that, that is forever my headcanon for that manip.  Teo's ordinarily a pretty humble guy, but I gotta imagine he would get a little bit of a kick out of showing off his extraordinarily hot girlfriend...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 12, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
If I knew, The Doph would have been canon as of "The Promise", I can tell you that much...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
Maybe the ATLA gods will smile upon us next season of LoK and give us something to feed our hopes of canonicity for our beautiful fanon ships...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 12, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
The familial image of the three (plus other siblings?) is very sweet, in my head.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
The familial image of the three (plus other siblings?) is very sweet, in my head.

Something tells me that Ty Lee didn't want a lot of kids, coming from a family like hers, and knowing how she felt about that. My current headcanon for Teo Lee babies is that she was only pregnant twice. The first time was when they were in their twenties, with twin boys (whom she was always very careful to treat as distinct and unique individuals). The second time was Pema, who was a late-in-life surprise.



Regarding The Doph, I feel like we're not gonna get much in that vein. Lin's Dad is probably gonna become the next Zuko's Mom.  Maybe in the final episode of LoK we'll finally find out for sure

But unless something unexpected happens with Ty Lee during The Search (or Bryke decide to grant my second-fondest wish and actually make it canon), Teo Lee will be forever headcanon.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Cowboy Colt on January 12, 2013, 08:26:38 PM
Great fic, Melon!

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And awesome sig!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
No indeed. Especially considering how fit Ty Lee is (both in the British and American senses of the word ^_~), it wouldn't be impossible for her to have a healthy child at that time of life. Plus, it's sort of established, per Roku and Sozin's lines, that at least in the Fire Nation, people are still having babies really freaking late in life (whichever of Roku's children was Ursa's mother or father had to have been at least in their 70's when Ursa was born, absolute minimum, for instance).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 12, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
Melon, I already liked the ship before but today I had serious Teo Lee feels. Does it mean there's no way back?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 09:38:51 PM
Yeah, pretty much. You're a goner.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 10:17:59 PM
MELON DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS? Nukilik is an artist... Must... Convince... Making... Fanart...

*jaw drops in awe*
You're right... holy wow. I'd already have been drawing Teo Lee like whoa if I had any artistic skill at all, but I don't, so I just make cheesy manips instead.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 12, 2013, 10:36:06 PM
Yay! I'm not the only one making sappy stuff now!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 12:56:09 AM
This fandom really does like its fanon ships an awful lot, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 13, 2013, 01:05:08 AM
Speaking of experience: there's no going back now.

MELON DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS? Nukilik is an artist... Must... Convince... Making... Fanart...

Eh... I saw this and I'm like "Ugh, I don't have time to do a proper fanart too much stuff to do T_T"

But I did something real quick (http://i.imgur.com/ApO55.jpg). For now I suppose this is not too awful? Lol I realized I've never drawn either charcter before so I'm totally lost XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 01:09:22 AM
Nukilik, I am fangirling you so hard right now.  Have some yuans, because it's BEAUTIFUL and AMAZING and ADORABLE and why is this ship so pretty?  I love how she's just so chipper and Ty Lee and O HAI!!! =D and he's all bashful and sweet and how is something that isn't Kataang giving me this many fluffy feels?

*goes to write ficlets*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 13, 2013, 01:10:53 AM
XD

Apparently the Melon Lord Approves!

Sorry. Had to. But seriously, the ship deserves fanart howcomeZutarahassomuchandnonethoughtofthisbefore? :p

*goes back to work*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 01:20:23 AM
I need to make a Melon Lord reaction gif for when I love something... now the only question is whether to use the actual Melon Lord scene, or just a picture of a melon...

howcomeZutarahassomuchandnonethoughtofthisbefore?

Well, it probably doesn't help that Teo Lee never had the chance to interact in canon even though circumstances could very easily have brought them together in the aftermath of the war and Zutara spent a lot of time attempting to kill each other even before he finally pulled his head out of his arse and they became friends.

But really, Teo Lee is such a good idea, I don't know how no one has run with it before now!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 13, 2013, 01:26:16 AM
True. Zutara is still way less... "cracky" considering Teo and Ty Lee never met in canon. Still, this deserves more love and it's weird no one thought of it before :p

Yay I helped flooding the Teo lee tag :D :D :D
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 01:54:23 AM
Yeah, at least Zuko and Katara were actually in the same scene... but hey, we always have Zuko's coronation. At least they were within ten feet of each other then.  And considering her new role as a member of the Kyoshi warriors and the fact that I've always thought Teo must have inherited at least some of his father's inventive talent (thereby making himself very much in demand in a rapidly-changing world), their paths could very easily cross at a later time.

EDIT:

Can I just say that I love that this thread has more comments than the entire child board for both Tokka and Sukka? That fills me with irrational joy.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 08:17:12 AM
Hey, when a ship is good, a ship is good.

Also, my Pema reflection piece (featuring Teo Lee) is just about half done. It's still quite short, but I'm just trying to make it really good. Probably won't be ready to post for a few days yet due to the new uni semester starting on Monday (oh my god that's tomorrow) but it's turning out quite nicely.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 13, 2013, 09:47:47 AM
NUKILIK!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE YUANS. Seriously, if this was a 'quick' thing, then I don't even know how good it'll be if you put some effort into it.

MELON!!!! TEO LEE HAS IT'S FIRST FANART!!!!


Well, thanks. I'm glad you think so since I blame it's existence on your post :p

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Also, this is clearly the best fanon ship. Ever.

See, one of the things I like about Teo Lee is, despite being fanon, it doesn't clash with canon at all. So that you don't need to bend the original story to make it possible unlike many/most fanon ships.

Because I happen to mostly like my ATLA canon, so please don't mess with it. Thank ya!

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Can I just say that I love that this thread has more comments than the entire child board for both Tokka and Sukka? That fills me with irrational joy.

Woah! You really accomplished something here :D

 Now, if only this gets across Tumblr...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 10:02:23 AM
I'm doing my best with that. Lil ficlets and manips and random irritating fansquee posts to clog up the Teo Lee tag... it's good times, honestly.  If it actually really catches on, that could be amazing.

I have an epic-length fanfic on my back burner which will heavily feature Teo Lee saving the world (and falling for each other in the process), and I know how a reasonably well-written fanfic that skillfully crafts a romance can launch a fanon ship like nobody's business if the readership is big enough.

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Also, this is clearly the best fanon ship. Ever.

See, one of the things I like about Teo Lee is, despite being fanon, it doesn't clash with canon at all. So that you don't need to bend the original story to make it possible unlike many/most fanon ships.

Because I happen to like my ATLA canon, so please don't mess with it. Thank ya!

Exactly. Canon-compliancy is a big part of why I've almost completely stopped caring about Tokka since we found out that Toph's daughter and Sokka's nephew used to play tonsil hockey. But Teo Lee not only makes exquisite sense, it's utterly possible with ATLA canon as presented thus far.  All that would really be necessary would be circumstances to throw them together for enough time to make it happen (and the way I envision them happening, it probably would take some time to get it together... they'd be a slow boil kind of romance) and voila!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Schmitty on January 13, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
I wouldn't say I ship this just yet, but I just want to take a moment to congratulate Melon. Captain of the SS Teo Lee, and successfully convincing people to come aboard.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4zc1fMLux1rwcc6bo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 06:56:40 PM
Firstly... awwww. I feel special.
Secondly..

Can I be first mate?

Yes. Yes you can.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 13, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
As current captain of the SS The Doph, I send you hail, fair winds and following seas.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 07:10:05 PM
And same to you, Captain Spruce!

Then will I, first mate Shiney, together with my noble Captain Melon of the SS Teo Lee, sail across the wide ocean that is the battle field of this fandom. On our honorable ship, will we convince every sailor or to join our floating boat, and destroy every single rival ship in the process.

We may not have cannons - but we will sure bomb you.

I feel like the only rival ships we have are Harulee and Tyzula.  And the only one that's really taken seriously by more than an extremely tiny fraction of the fan-base is Tyzula. Which I guess I can understand, because Ty Lee is very seriously the only person to ever love Azula unconditionally, but personally I take that complicated relationship for what it is rather than getting all femslash about it...

Basically, unlike other non-canon ships, we really don't have rival pairings that were lovingly crafted and developed in the series.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 07:26:13 PM
Yep, pretty much. Although Grey Delisle would love for us to think otherwise.

The only reason I can see Harulee happening would be because Haru is just another prettyboy, just like Ty Lee always goes for (and we've seen how well that's worked out for her in the past)...  and Ty Lee has a braid like Katara so Haru would like that because Bad Reasons For Ship.

Oh god. Why is my brain concocting scenarios where Ty Lee and Haru are together, Haru proceeds to ditch her for Katara (who couldn't care less because she's way too busy sucking face with the Avatar to notice Haru's attempts to impress her), Ty Lee is left heartbroken and then Teo swoops in to save the day and appreciate her for the amazing person she is instead of just her hawtness...  it's such a cliche'd plot, but my brain will not ignore it. At all.

I have a bad feeling I'm going to end up writing this... and it's probably going to suck.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 07:43:50 PM
The Harulee-becomes-Teo Lee fic will probably be a two- or three-shot.  I'm gonna take a break from Ch6 of Fireflight and the Pema-as-daughter-of-Teo Lee ficlet and try to get the first chapter up by tonight.  It'll be on tumblr and ffnet (and maybe even here, too) by this evening sometime.

And my epic-length Kataang, Teo Lee, Mai/Ruling the FN fic will be something that I'll just kinda write in the background and when it's about half-done I'll start posting it.  And then the whole world will ship Teo Lee because you have no idea what a decent, long fic can do for a fanon ship until you see it in action (and believe me, I have, in other fandoms).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
We can definitely have Toph the shipper. I have a feeling that Ty Lee's gonna be too pissed and sad that her boyfriend ditched her for the sake of trying to break up her OTP to do much shipping (until Teo fixes up that broken heart, of course).

Also, may I just say that my head is conjuring up an image of Ty Lee doing a handstand on the arms of Teo's wheelchair, giving him an upside-down Spider-man kiss and it's absolutely adorable?

But yeah, await the first part of the Teo Lee two- and/or three-shot sometime tonight (for clarification it's about 2 pm my time, since I know you're on the other side of the Pond, Shiney).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 13, 2013, 10:50:17 PM
I could see Ty Lee being slightly jealous (if that's even a feeling she posses?) over the fact that Kataang is so happy. Not envy, but more like "I wish I had that" - and then comes Teo.

Yessssss I can envision that. Especially because the guy that she liked so much in canon had zero interest in her.

EDIT:

The first chapter is posted. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8907168/1/)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Writing Haru- even Haru as seen through Ty Lee's memories and reflections- is surprisingly hard. Because, um, don't hate me for this, but I never felt like Haru actually had a personality.  He was pretty to look at and a very nice sort of person, but he always seemed so... bland.

Oh well. Ty Lee's gonna get herself a man with a bit of pizzazz...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 08:33:11 AM
He's had even less screen time than Teo, and even less where he showed prominent personality. So, keeping him overall nice should be enough.

Firstly- you're probably right.

Secondly- At least in Teo's short amount of screen time, we got to learn an awful lot about him. All we really got from Haru's episode was that he's a nice, well-meaning guy who loves his family and maybe has something of a rebellious streak. But even though Teo was only around for a slightly longer time, somehow we still learned a lot more about him. His actions said a lot- and really did mark him as a steward of the Air Nomad spirit. He was high-spirited, empathetic, humble, intelligent (clearly got that from his father!), very attuned to spiritual matters whether he realized it or not, and had a great sense of humor.

Oh man he is so perfect for Ty Lee!  They just complement each other so well.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 08:53:35 AM
Haru would probably be more like one of the boys in "The Beach".

I always feel so bad for Ty Lee during that scene at the Jersey Shore Ruon-Jian's house when all the guys are completely ganging up on her and demanding that she choose one. I know it's played for laffs, but that still sucks. Yeah, she encouraged them at the start, because it's really easy for Ty Lee to use people and not even realize that she's doing it because she just loves their attention and doesn't always see the situation so clearly, but when you consider the fact that this probably wasn't something that happened just once for her- that she literally has to physically fight off hordes of excessively persistent would-be suitors... well, you start to feel really bad for her.

Yet another reason why Teo would be a good match for her: he's not pushy. He can be showy and clever and awesome and eye-catching when he wants to, but from what we've seen, he's much more laid back than your typical hormone-driven teenager.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 09:17:52 AM
I think Aang would be a hardcore Teo Lee shipper.  He recognized something of himself in Teo pretty quickly, and I think as he gets to know Ty Lee as something other than the peppy girl with the quick fists, he might very well recognize the airbender spirit in her as well. And in his deeply romantic heart, I think he wouldn't be able to help thinking these two friends of his would make a very sweet couple.

And as for Katara, she just kind of ships her friends/happiness, so while I don't think it would be a thought that would occur to her before it happened, once it actually did she would be a big fan. Katara is the biggest canon shipper ever.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 14, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
Oh, and yes, Katara is definitely the biggest canon shipper, and Toph the biggest fanon shipper. I'm sorry BUT I CAN NOT GET OVER THE FACT THAT Toph SHIPS Katara. It's sooo lulz.

It's just so true.

Katara tried shipping Toph once as payback, but her heart wasn't into it. Tokka is just not her OTP.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Schmitty on January 14, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
I feel sorry for Toph. Harutara, Jetara, Tokka. None of her ships are canon. Poor girl.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 14, 2013, 11:14:57 AM
Let's not forget forget Toko. She shipped it by the end of the show.

Seriously, guys, I'm telling you. When Sokka suggested Katara kised Jet to "relive" his memory, TOPH SMILLED. A TRUE SHIPPER SMILE.

Meanwhile Aang and Katara mentally slapped Sokka :p
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 14, 2013, 11:45:16 AM
About Haru: I don't think he'd be as bad as the usual Ember Island guys, he's a bit more gentlemanly than that. But, I do still like Teo Lee more.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 04:40:19 PM
Yeah, Haru would definitely not be pushy like the EI playas (see what I did there? And the puns get even better if you speak Spanish... ooh, triple threat tri-pun!), but I think he definitely has that earthbender tendency to just go for what he wants when he makes up his mind to do so.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 14, 2013, 10:31:34 PM
Exactly! Earth and Fire mesh well... but Ty Lee's not really all that much of a Fire Nation personality, now is she?  She's Airbender on the outside (because let's face it, she could not look more like an airbender if she tried), Fire Nation in the middle, and then deep down underneath that little layer of Fire Nationishness, she's got more Airbender at the center.

And Teo is the same way, but replace "Fire Nation" with "Earth Kingdom."  So again, we've got just enough Earth to blend nicely with the Fire in her, but Teo is more of an Air Nomad at heart, just like she is, and thus complements her much better.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 15, 2013, 12:43:57 AM
I bet they have beautiful children who are as sweet as them...

...oh.

Right... (click to show/hide)(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121112115216/avatar/images/1/1d/Pema.png)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
I bet they have beautiful children who are as sweet as them...

...oh.

Right... (click to show/hide)(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121112115216/avatar/images/1/1d/Pema.png)

Ain't that the truth...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Cowboy Colt on January 15, 2013, 01:05:47 AM
Now that I look at her it's kind of weird how much Pema resembles Ty-Lee and Teo.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 01:46:24 AM
Isn't it?  It cannot just be a coincidence. Bryyyyyyyke, make it canooooooonnnnnnn!!!!  *whines*

Seriously, the more you look at her, the more you freak out over the resemblances.  I mean. HER HAIR.  It's the same color as Ty Lee's, but you can tell, from that little tuft at the front that doesn't quite get pulled back with the rest, that she has Teo's crazy messy hair.  And her face.  Same soft features as Ty Lee, but maybe a little bit longer and leaner, like Teo.  Those eyes... Teo's eyes, exactly, very pretty EK hazel. And you can completely tell that when she's not massively pregnant, she's just a tiny little slip of a thing, much like Ty Lee.

And Ty Lee's personality is exquisitely manifested in little Ikki, and Rohan has the eyes of course...
I hate how plausible and amazing this headcanon is, because if it gets shot down in flames by Season 2, I'm really gonna be devastated.  On the other hand, if it DOESN'T get shot down in flames (or better yet, ends up being canon as -censored-), it will be a supremely cathartic and triumphant moment for me.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 08:03:38 AM
I'll be co-host for this grim banquet, should it become necessary.

But honestly, as much as it would hurt if they shot down the Pema-as-Teo Lee-baby headcanon, as long as they leave Teo Lee itself intact, I should be able to endure that, emotionally.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
You are quite possibly right.

I'm just hoping that nothing happens with Ty Lee in The Search that could contradict the inevitable existence of Teo Lee.  Then again, who knows if she'll even show up aside from that one appearance with Azula in the beginning...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 07:13:16 PM
Indeed. Without a knife to the gut or a (metaphorical) ring to the finger, Teo Lee is still possible at any time.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 15, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
Imagine if teo and Ty lee are both in the comic.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxplorVKL1qii6tmo1_500.gif)

Oh, if Teo and Ty lee  MEET:

(http://media.tumblr.com/6ef351d35f881dcbd87776276764a664/tumblr_inline_mfjfubDFkT1qaqsz7.gif)

If Teo and Ty Lee TALK:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/385891aa19d9842c2ae4ccf6a7a3dd81/tumblr_mglzp3XyLz1rn72d8o3_250.gif)

If Teo and Ty lee kiss: You can wake up now. You were reading a fanfic and fell asleep XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 15, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Nukilik, that right there earns you some yuans.

Anyway, their search very well might take them to the Earth Kingdom. Possibly the northwestern Earth Kingdom, which seems like a logical place for Ursa to hide out. That's near the Air Temple (although, who knows if Teo even went back to the temple? Maybe he likes seeing the world and traveling a bit) and it's not impossible to imagine that if Ty Lee turns up in the company of our main band of heroes (and maybe she might... after all, she's gotta feel compelled to try to stick close to Azula), they might encounter each other by chance or... well...

Oh I love hate how plausible it all is.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 15, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
I don't know if I see them making this straight canon, but I can absolutely see them having the two characters meet and Ty Lee being like "you're cute :D!" in her typical flirty manner. She might like, hop into his lap (with an acrobat move, 'natch) and throw her arms around him even, and Suki has to drag her off by the ear.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 03:24:30 AM
Dude, I don't even care. If Teo showed up somehow (which is not impossible. I mean... they had Sneers as a main character in The Promise, and he appeared in one scene in one episode) in The Search, I would completely be happy with the two of them in the same panel. Not even interacting. Just in the same panel.

And if the two of them actually met for real and not just "we are in the same place at the same time" like they were at Zuko's coronation... *mind blown*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 07:56:12 AM
It's not outside the realm of possibility for Teo Lee to be canon-destined.

I mean, everyone thought Linzin was utter crack and would never, ever happen, either... and then it became canon and everyone was like OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1!!

And Teo Lee, when you think about it, is exactly up Bryke's alley. It's precisely the kind of pairing they would love to itty bitty bits. So even if it never becomes canon, as long as we never get anything that contradicts it, I'm going to assume that it actually IS canon in that it's what Bryke envisioned.

Also, you know what weirds me out?  Teo/Toph.  Huh? I've read a few Kataang pieces that had Teo and Toph as a background pairing and it was so bizarre. It was like literally the only logic behind the pairing was "Well, she's blind and he's paraplegic so obviously they can understand each other!"  Except... no. It's like mini-Taang (airbender in spirit if not in bending ability, paired with the master earthbender). Only it's lacking all the things which actually make Taang even REMOTELY possible (and it really is an incredibly distant, amazingly remote, implausible possibility that would require an Act of God to induce).

It just incites a whole lot of LOLWHUT feelings in me.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 08:15:54 AM
Poor Toph. I think she's the new Katara. Now that Katara has a canonically-established happily ever after with the man of her dreams, someone else has to be the girl who gets shipped with everybody.  And at present, it's sort of a three-way war between Toph, Korra, and- surprisingly- Ursa to find out who that's gonna be.  Seriously, I see Toph paired with everybody and it's weird, but Teo/Toph has got to be the absolute weirdest (and kind of insulting... I mean, my BFF is wheelchair-bound, but she's not gonna go jump a blind guy just because he can "understand her better" because of his disability or some other such nonsense, which is usually how Teoph is played).

Teo needs to have somebody who's going to A) not just tolerate or put up with, but appreciate his inquisitiveness and scientific mind and B) not run roughshod all over him.  Ty Lee has a huge personality, but she complements the people she's around, rather than dominating them. I wonder how much of that comes from living most of her life in Azula's shadow. One way or another, she's really good at appreciating the very best of people and accepting the worst of them, and she's also very good at being herself without totally overrunning the whole atmosphere of the group.

She'd be just as good for Teo as he would be for her.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 04:33:42 PM
The only time I've ever appreciated Toph being shipped with an airbender (or airbender-type personality) is Yonten in The Avatar's Love. Because even though he is a very airbendery airbender, he also does not appreciate her tendency to run right over him and tells her so. He sticks up for himself and calls her on it and doesn't let her push him around.

For some reason, it's not okay to be a soft guy. If you're too nice or gentle, you need to be "manned" up, and for some reason, Toph should be the one doing that.

No, I'll stick with Kataang and Teo Lee where Teo and Aang can be happy as the nice guys they are.

Yep, and it's a sad, sad commentary on the state of western society that this is the case. I hate it, for a lot of reasons but also because kind, gentle guys are exactly the type of man I'm attracted to, and we live in a social climate that actively tries to squash that.  Softheartedness does not equate to a lack of masculinity.

I'm with you, Shiney. Let's give these kind, gentle boys over to the girls who will love them just exactly how they are and not try to force a change on them.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
Exactly. One of the things that I love the most about ATLA (and to a lesser extent LoK) is that it really underlines that, just as there is no one right way to be a woman, there is no one right way to be a man.  You've got a guy like Aang, who is very in touch with more "feminine" traits, but is certainly not un-masculine. You've got Sokka, the meat and sarcasm tough guy who loves shopping to an unhealthy degree. You've got stoic and surly angry guy Zuko. You've got wise old men and crazy old men and stern old men. You've got the geeky, high-spirited son of an inventor with the mind of a mechanic, and big tough guys who aren't the brightest, and warriors and cabbage merchants and fancy noblemen and kings who talk to their pets (and in some cases have rather co-dependent relationships with them).

And all of that is okay.  Everybody is comfortable in their own skin, no one ever wishes to be other than they are, because who they are is just fine. There's nothing wrong with Aang, who has a soft spot for animals and regularly saves the world and makes jewelry out of wildflowers and is nice to everybody. Don't try to force him into your narrow-minded perception of what masculinity should look like.

Same goes for everybody else.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 16, 2013, 09:13:06 PM
This ship. I could see it happening. And I think I like it. I still can't fully decided. But so far it's sounding good. And I like idea of them being Pema's parents too.

I used to ship Teo/Toph a looong time ago. Like before I even understood reasons as to why two characters should be together. I don't even remember why I used to ship them. But The Doph is my ship for Toph now.

Teo Lee would be pretty awesome to see happening though.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 16, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
It's deeply unlikely that we'll ever get any confirmation for Teo Lee, but I love it very much.

Stay tuned to my Almost Airbenders fic, Nightcrawler.  I should finish that within a month (I would promise it as a complete whole sooner, but busyyyyyyyyy), and although it's very light-hearted and won't probably go super deep into the levels of awesome that is Teo Lee, it should be a decent introduction to Why Everyone And Their Sister Should Ship This.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Cowboy Colt on January 16, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
I just did a search for Teo Lee fan art and I could find none.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 17, 2013, 04:36:03 AM
That's because the ship was invented all of two weeks ago.  BUT if you go on tumblr and search the Teo Lee tag, you'll see the combined efforts of Shiney, myself, and even a cute contribution from Nukilik!

This little ship is just a baby, guys. She's just setting sail. Right now the only fanart that I know of is Nukilik's adorable little piece (http://i.imgur.com/ApO55.jpg).  But there will be more, in time.  Even if I have to take a class myself to learn how to drawn like something other than a complete, perspective-less art n00b, there will be Teo Lee fanarts.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 17, 2013, 07:41:58 AM
And hey, don't our sappy manips KINDA count as fan art?  Sorta?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Seluna on January 17, 2013, 07:56:27 AM
Which of you talented folks has some time to make a ship graphic for this lovely ship for TKC's tumblr?

I love the discussion happening here and the passion in which it's being discussed.

We usually have them say the site's name, url, and the phrase "Let your ship come rest in our dock."

But I could make one when I find the time - just thought I'd ask if anyone else wanted the job first since I'm a busy gal these days. ;)

Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 17, 2013, 08:07:33 AM
I'll try to whip something up, though I gotta say my art and photoshop skillz are kind of... what's the word... lame?

I suppose we could always do a variation on the manip in my sig because that's just adorable.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Seluna on January 17, 2013, 08:14:16 AM
Would Nukilik be cool with me using her art? I'd give credit. :) I want to give this ship some love, too.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 17, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
^ Absolutely. Feel free to use it, Seluna! :D
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 17, 2013, 07:57:43 PM
Awesome-sauce!  I'm also working on another manip, if you want I can turn that into something for the TKC tumblr as well.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Seluna on January 17, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Sure! Keep 'em coming and I'll post them. :)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Seluna on January 18, 2013, 12:25:23 AM
http://thekorraconnection.tumblr.com/post/40799700222/the-korra-connection-come-here-to-discuss-the
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a77b8da9995b4f8398486bc3ee33dc80/tumblr_mgsoxnJNC21rkzlhko1_1280.png)

Here you go, guys! :D Graphic and tumblr post advertising this thread and all.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Glitch on January 18, 2013, 03:02:14 AM
Okay. I just sat here. And I read the whole thread.

All of my yes. I am such a shipper of them now. You guys have totally convinced me. However, I am still a super multi-shipper, so I'm not gonna let go of my beloved Ty Zula ship... but I multi-ship. xD

As I read through this I had an idea for a fic but alas, I can't write it with all the things on my hands to write. I'm gonna put it in this post so I can come back to it later if I ever get caught up on fanfic writing, but until then, if anyone likes the simple idea enough you're welcome to include it. xD I can totes see them getting together, and Teo tells Ty Lee that he has a little bit of feeling in his legs and can twitch them, and always has since he was injured. She gets excited realizing that there may be hope to recover some, and using her super amazing chi-knowledge and extensive experience with bodily contortion, she helps him stretch his legs every day in unique and weird ways, and over a long period of time he begins to get more feeling in his legs and eventually can move them around some.

sfdjgsdlkjfghklsdfjghlksdjfghsdfg it would be so cute.

Anyway I am adding this ship to my list of ships. I'm on board. :}
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 18, 2013, 03:04:13 AM
That's a pretty interesting idea, Glitch.

Even in general, I think the image of Ty Lee lovingly helping her boy into bed, or something like that, is very sweet. And she's the nurturing sort who'd do it without complaint, too.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Glitch on January 18, 2013, 03:06:32 AM
That's a pretty interesting idea, Glitch.

Even in general, I think the image of Ty Lee lovingly helping her boy into bed, or something like that, is very sweet. And she's the nurturing sort who'd do it without complaint, too.
Yes, I can just imagine all the fluff that would go into their relationship! They seem like the kind of pairing that would truly be in love with each other no matter what's on the outside... That he doesn't go after her for her beauty on the outside, and she doesn't think twice about his disability.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 18, 2013, 03:21:33 AM
using her super amazing chi-knowledge and extensive experience with bodily contortion, she helps him stretch his legs every day in unique and weird ways, and over a long period of time he begins to get more feeling in his legs and eventually can move them around some.

O.O

Ty Lee as the original Avaverse physical therapist!?!? HEADCANON ACCEPTED.

But really, this ship... I love this ship. I love it so much. They would be amazingly sweet, and I think that's something Ty Lee would need, considering her upbringing and her role as sole confidante to notorious master manipulator Azula.  She needs someone warm and kind and fun and genuine.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 18, 2013, 03:32:32 AM
Someone who holds her in his strong arms (built from years of pushing his wheelchair), plants a kiss on the top of her head, and lovingly whispers "good night" in her ear as she falls asleep.

As opposed to "get up early we have a lot of ground to cover or so help me I will end you". You know, from Azula.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 18, 2013, 03:46:03 AM
Someone who holds her in his strong arms (built from years of pushing his wheelchair), plants a kiss on the top of her head, and lovingly whispers "good night" in her ear as she falls asleep.

As opposed to "get up early we have a lot of ground to cover or so help me I will end you". You know, from Azula.

#1- You're right, Teo really would have strong arms. My best friend in the world is paraplegic. She is 4' 10", weighs eighty pounds, and when we were in high school, she arm-wrestled her way through the entire football squad and the wrestling team.  Made a few of them cry, too.

#2- Being with Teo would definitely be an excellent change of pace after HOW many years of being pushed around and psychologically tortured by her best friend?  Yeah, she needs a sweetie who's really going to give her some affection and put her best interests first.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Glitch on January 19, 2013, 04:58:33 AM
So I entered the drabble contest this week. Just finished writing this and I ended up putting my idea into action. xD
Quote (selected)
Title: First Step to a New Beginning
Author: Glitch
Rating: K+
Word Count: 400
Summary: They had met at Zuko's coronation... but they would have never guessed they'd end up as soulmates. Stretches, aerobics, and all sorts of physical therapy over the past year or two had all been leading up to this point, and for Ty Lee, it was her moment to let Teo know that perseverance can overcome any difficulty.
Note: Indeed, I have been converted to ship Teo Lee. :D

First Step to a New Beginning (click to show/hide)"Are you ready?" a soft voice inquired.

"Absolutely," was the determined reply. A young man looked down at his legs, which were laying out straightforward on the bed. There were loosened wrappings underneath them that had been recently taken off. After a long pause, he finally attempted to move. His left leg twitched, bringing a smirk. His right leg twitched; more joy. He managed to move one slightly towards the edge of the bed.

"You're doing it!" the girl exclaimed.

His leg continued sliding to the edge of the bed, and finally dropped off the side with a thud.

"Did you feel that?" She asked, wincing as she hoped he didn't.

"A little bit!" he answered. Bittersweet. His other leg followed soon enough, and he was now sitting on the edge of the bed with both legs dangling to the floor. He extended his hands to the young woman.

"Teo, are you sure you're ready for that? You've made a lot of progress already," She smiled.

"I can do this," he answered, "I haven't failed yet, I'm gonna keep going."

She grabbed his hands, concern on her face, though nonetheless supportive. He shifted his weight onto her arms and clumsily pulled himself up into a standing position. Quickly, however, and almost in a panic, he slid his arms up to her shoulders and grabbed on for support. She reached beneath his arms and around his torso to keep him from falling.

"Are you sure you can do this?"

"Ty Lee, I'm fine, I just need to stabilize myself…" he trailed off, concentrating. After adjusting his legs little by little, he tried to take a step, looking down at his feet. "Here goes…"

The boy slowly dragged his left foot forward. It slid across the ground and wouldn't normally be considered an actual step, but for him... it was something he had never accomplished before. Ty Lee took a simultaneous step as he moved, and a smile lept onto her face. She quickly looked up at Teo, ecstatic.

"You did it!" She squealed, leaping into a full-on hug, including a delightful kiss with it. The force of her leaping into the hug and the lack of support he was now receiving forced the couple to fall back onto the fluffy bed where they simply laid and laughed together as they stared at the ceiling.

It was a new beginning for Teo.
Please consider voting for my Teo Lee drabble this week in the Drabble Contest (http://thekorraconnection.com/index.php?topic=1357.0), but be sure to read through the other entries and give them a fair chance too! ^^
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 19, 2013, 05:13:34 AM
Aw, that was amazingly sweet, Glitch! I love it!
<< Post Merge: January 21, 2013, 06:27:30 PM >>


Almost Airbenders has now come to TKC as well!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 07:46:50 PM
I've always had a lot of curiosity about Teo's injury.  Was it an actual spinal injury that rendered him paraplegic? Or was it literally an injury to his legs? Because there are a lot of things that could have happened in the (pretty vague) circumstances described by the Mechanist that could have led to Teo not being able to walk as an adult. Paralysis is not the only possibility, and I'm intrigued by that.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Exactly.  If his legs were broken and he didn't receive proper treatment- or even if he just received poor treatment (likely in the event of an evacuation scenario like the one described)- it would be very easy for his bones to set wrong and then simply be weak for life.

Honestly I think this is the most likely scenario, considering his legs are bandaged. That's not typically a necessary step for a paraplegic.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 21, 2013, 08:19:55 PM
I follow the logic, but if that's so then I have to wonder why Katara didn't go to work on him when she had the chance (maybe at the Western Air Temple?).

Unless it truly is too great an injury to correct with Spirit Water. It sounds like a quest Ty Lee would gladly go on...have at it, fic writers
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 08:41:18 PM
I follow the logic, but if that's so then I have to wonder why Katara didn't go to work on him when she had the chance (maybe at the Western Air Temple?).

Maybe it was because everything that wasn't about Zuko had no place in ATLA after Day of Black Sun they didn't have a whole lot of time in the number of episodes they had left to do much with it.  Or because Katara was fresh out of spirit water. Or because they couldn't pin Teo down long enough to try it, seeing as he was always off "exploring the temple." Or because nobody thought of it. Or because Katara was a bit preoccupied with freaking out over the fact that her best friend kissed her, her mortal enemy joined their squad, and the war still isn't over, dammit.

I don't know, it's one of those things that coulda/woulda/shoulda been if they'd had time, but they didn't, so they didn't.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 08:46:50 PM
Indeed.  Katara could do the initial fix (which could probably done even if it was a paraplegia situation) and then it would be up to Ty Lee to handle the long recovery process with lots and lots of chi-blocker-enhanced physical therapy...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 21, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
"Ty Lee, do you love him enough to go into the Spirit World, to find water with that kind of power again?"

I'm envisioning something like that.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 09:01:49 PM
"Ty Lee, do you love him enough to go into the Spirit World, to find water with that kind of power again?"

Indeed.  Katara could do the initial fix (which could probably done even if it was a paraplegia situation) and then it would be up to Ty Lee to handle the long recovery process with lots and lots of chi-blocker-enhanced physical therapy...
Oh, man. I want a fic about this.



I want fic about BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS.

Please, please, please other fanfic authors, help me out. I can't write ALL the Teo Lee by myself... (especially because I have a whole other epic Kataang/Teo Lee/Mai Ruling The Fire Nation fic that I'm gonna dive into once Fireflight is a little further along).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 09:17:56 PM
I suppose I could at least include the second scenario (the Katara-heals-Teo-and-Ty-Lee-takes-it-from-there one).  Can't work in the "Ty Lee goes to the spirit world" bit, because the whole premise of the fic is that the Gaang has gone off to the SW to find Zuko, and Ty Lee and Teo are basically the only ones left to prevent civil war in the Earth Kingdom, but the first one might be plausible.  We'll see.  I'm still sketching out a full outline for that piece.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
With the way the current story is shaping up, it's looking like that won't really fit in the beginning of the piece.  Just because it really, really doesn't jive with anything else in the story, and as much as I need my Teo Lee feels, I can't sacrifice the integrity of the story I want to tell for the fluffies (no matter how much I want to).

But that definitely doesn't rule it out as a possibility in the denoument... or as a plot point in a future Teo Lee story... ;)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 10:03:28 PM
Don't fangirl me.  Fangirl Teo Lee (and Kataang... and Teo Lee... and Maiko... and Kataang... and maybe just plain Aang).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 21, 2013, 10:08:42 PM
I don't think a "field trip to the Spirit World" is the only way to cook this omelette, just one idea I got pretty quickly that might work. If you need spirit juju, makes sense to go to where the spirits are to get more.

I have full faith in Melon figuring out something good that integrates with what she already has XD.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 21, 2013, 10:31:00 PM
I suspect that if I do incorporate this idea, it will fall somewhere in the end of the fic... which I still really need a title for.  GAH.  It's currently being called Battle of Bandar in reference to the fact that aforementioned battle (which I referenced in my as-yet-unpublished Pema-and-Ty Lee reflection oneshot) is the climactic conflict of the story, but I want a better title than that.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Schmitty on January 22, 2013, 02:18:34 AM
After reading your latest chapter for your story Melon, I think it's safe to say that I now ship Teo Lee.

Damn woman, how are you converting all these people?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 02:31:56 AM
Damn woman, how are you converting all these people?

It's not me.  It's the ship.  It's just that good.  It practically writes itself!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 22, 2013, 02:33:31 AM
Thus is the secret to spreading your ship: do not try to convince others. Just extol your ship with heart and hustle, with enthusiasm and energy, and let the ship speak for itself.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 02:40:36 AM
Ain't that the truth!  Enthusiasm is infectious, and if there's anything I've got, it's boundless enthusiasm.  Especially when it comes to ATLA. And Teo Lee is certainly no exception to that.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 07:31:55 AM
Which is why I find it awesome that, based solely on post counts in the shipping board, Teo Lee has surpassed Zutara to take second place in the most-discussed ship list.

Yep.

We've talked more about Teo Lee (just in the shipping boards, not elsewhere on the site, but it's still relevant) than people have talked about Zutara. Why do I feel like my life should have a pop-up that says ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED right now or something?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 07:42:36 AM
That is true.

But Teo Lee now has a higher post count and I love that fact fiercely.  Now only Makorra, Borra, and Kataang surpass Teo Lee, and Kataang is the only one in the ATLA section. And that makes me really, really happy.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3odvp1LIk1qbhonq.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 07:54:12 AM
Well, that depends entirely on how old they were when they got together.  Personally, I see the most likely scenario for them getting together being right about the time he was turning 19 because arbitrary numbers are arbitrary.

But I also suspect that Ty Lee wouldn't want to have a lot of kids.  After the childhood she had... I'm thinking it highly unlikely she'd want lots of little ones running around.  However, I suspect that, being one of a set of septuplets, she'd be prone to multiple births, so it's entirely possible that the ended up having a few kids from only one or two pregnancies.

My headcanon is that Pema has two older brothers (twins).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
I love the surprise!Pema theory. 
I would say something more profound, but it's two a.m. and I'm tired, so let's just go with

YEAAAAHHHH TEO LEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

because that is about all my brain can manage right now.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 08:52:27 PM
^^THIS POST. IT EARNS YUANS.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 22, 2013, 09:01:45 PM
Capslock blogs are terrible... but I suppose I could turn my LJ account into one... ;P
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 03:46:18 AM
I love moments like that.

I spent my lunch break (and by "lunch" I mean "dinner" because I work an evening shift and so even though I work enough hours to have a lunch break, it's not centered around lunchtime at all) mapping out the next few chapters of Almost Airbenders, and it's looking like instead of being a four-chapter short!fic, it's gonna be a 6-10 chapter miniseries.  I realized it was necessary in order to provide acceptable development for all the aspects of the story.

And also because I just wanna flail around with Air Temple Island (which, in my headcanon, came about while the UR was still sort of a baby and Republic City wasn't even Republic City yet, and the whole thing just sort of sprang up around the Air Temple because reasons) and Aang having a big party because NEW AIR TEMPLE YAY and Kataang being cute and Suki being wise and helpful and Zuko wandering around in the background occasionally because every good postwar fic needs some Firelord and just...

just lots of really good stuff in addition to the Teo Lee.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 07:14:01 AM
We just might.

Although right now we're really getting more of Suki the Shipper, actually. But that's because it's an important plot point.

Though considering one sub-plot does consist of Haru trying (and failing) really hard to get Katara, maybe we will see Toph's not-so-latent shipper tendencies come out a little bit.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 07:51:45 AM
Yeah, it's the minorest of minor subplots.  And basically consists of Haru embarrassing himself.  He's a sweet boy, really he is, but he's a liiiiiiiittle too optimistic about his chances with Katara for his own good.  Aang already put a ring on it.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 08:00:55 AM
Actually, if I can finagle it, Mai's gonna be the one getting her laffs out of Haru... because Mai deserves to be dryly amused by ALL THE THINGS.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 08:27:46 AM
Pretty sure Maiko is the only ship she OTPs, though...

Although she has a soft spot for Teo Lee. She just wants Ty Lee to be happy, what with that whole close-friends-since-childhood, totally-saved-her-butt-when-Azula-was-about-to-fry-it thing...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 08:53:28 AM
Is Mai even capable of giddy? I was under the impression she'd had that squashed out of her years ago...

Then again, I can picture Mai being giddy on her wedding day...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
And probably her daughter, too.

Oh my god, I just had a thought.

Ten yuans says Ty Lee is Honora's godmother.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 10:23:14 AM
And Ty Lee and Teo are obviously Pema's parents.

...so Ty Lee's goddaughter married her son-in-law's brother.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 23, 2013, 10:24:46 AM
So many family ties are getting confusing  XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
True.

But as long as Jinora doesn't start sharing her mother's taste for significantly older men and going after Cousin Iroh, we should be good. It's funny because Irohnora is a thingWhich significantly freaks me out.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
Bolinora is a thing too.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
And now, Shiney, you finally understand fandom.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 04:47:50 PM
No, really good Kataang fanfiction is the best fandom thing.  But Teo Lee is a close second.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 05:17:38 PM
Kataang is number one, but I don't really count them as a fandom thing as they are canon. Though, I suppose, the fanfiction is fandom creations.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 23, 2013, 10:27:18 PM
Most definitely.

They just fit.  It's irrational and crazy and perfect and a little bit wild and that's pretty much what love is.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 23, 2013, 11:08:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/34j9y63.jpg)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 23, 2013, 11:14:02 PM
I think we can agree, if we talk creation as, well SHIP, Teo Lee is the best thing the fandom has made.

>_>

<_<

...

...I still love The Doph more but Teo Lee is super rad!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 12:46:44 AM
This thread is full of so much truth...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 24, 2013, 12:51:33 AM
Yes.

Oh good she missed the tiny text :D
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
Didn't miss it. Just respected your right to love the ship you champion more than the ship I champion.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 24, 2013, 12:57:03 AM
But I really do love Teo Lee lots too :).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 01:44:29 AM
It's very difficult not to. They're a strikingly excellent couple.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
Speaking of...

Nukilik, put that on tumblr! Put it in the Kataang tag so it's not just me and occasionally Shiney posting in that tag...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 07:57:52 AM
*facepalms*

Apparently I'm in a Kataang mood because even the words that aren't supposed to be Kataang are still getting typed as Kataang...

Which is uber-frustrating, because I'm trying to work on the next chapter of Almost Airbenders buuuuut... nope, actually, apparently not because my brain is going KATAANG KATAANG KATAANG KATAANG.  Which is totally okay, but very distracting when I'm trying to write Teo Lee instead...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 24, 2013, 08:21:11 AM
No one can blame you. It's hard to concentrate living with the fact that KATAANG!!!!

It's true. You're out there just living your life, minding your own business when suddently... Kataang FEELS!

Also, the keep calm poster is there!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 24, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
No one can blame you. It's hard to concentrate living with the fact that KATAANG!!!!

It's true. You're out there just living your life, minding your own business when suddently... Kataang FEELS!

Also, the keep calm poster is there!

Story of my life. Sitting calmly and watching "How the Universe Works", then in the middle of black holes destroying entire gakaxi- KATAANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG KATAANG!! *brain melt*

Yup. I'll be sitting there, ever so calmly attempting to file insurance claims for some poor bloke who's just been involved in a six-car pileup and suddenly, for no reason... "Oh, you wanted to be an effective employee? Lulz, how about some Kataang feels to make you distracted and moony for the rest of your shift? Yeah, how's that working out for you?"

The Teo Lee feels have been almost as bad since I started writing Almost Airbenders.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 28, 2013, 07:53:11 PM
YEAH!!! TEO LEEE!!!!!

THREAD MUST LIVE!!!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Fourtune on January 28, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
This is slightly off-topic, and maybe a little weird since I think I've had a bit part early in showing support for this pair, but I really need to learn how to do what you guys do. You have a red hot ship with a firm foundation here straight out of thin air, and I totally wish I could just pull off something like that right now.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 28, 2013, 08:01:16 PM
It's all about the passion.  If you love something, and you talk about it with passion, other people who are open to the idea will listen and take in your ideas, and if you're passionate enough about it (rather than trying to convince them, let them see your own enthusiasm) it just settles into their minds and hearts and it all just sort of works.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on January 28, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
It's all about the passion.  If you love something, and you talk about it with passion, other people who are open to the idea will listen and take in your ideas, and if you're passionate enough about it (rather than trying to convince them, let them see your own enthusiasm) it just settles into their minds and hearts and it all just sort of works.
Boom. This right here.

It worked for The Doph (you should know all about that, Fortune :D), it worked for Teo Lee, it can work for anyone.

Another note: keep positive. Say everything, even responses to criticisms, with a smile. Not fighting means not making enemies means making friends, and friends are how ships grow.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 28, 2013, 11:28:55 PM
^^That.  Everything that Spruce said.

Also, I expect to have a new chapter of Almost Airbenders finished and posted soon. If not tonight, it will be within the next few days.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: PSUKFB92 on January 28, 2013, 11:41:46 PM
I guess after 16 pages, I should say something:

Okay, the idea is interesting. They do both have airbender traits in them, and maybe, if they do somehow meet, something could be there. They are quite similar to one another and well...you never know. I find it hard to believe we won't find out some more depth about Pema at some point, then we'll see from there...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 28, 2013, 11:45:00 PM
Woooo. This thread lives. Beautiful. They approve.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lukv1s2p121r1nmpao1_500.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9975531af4f15181ae3ab9e255f40fee/tumblr_mfwrnaaYUJ1rqbr7yo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Glitch on January 29, 2013, 12:58:09 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljzp0flMwA1qzlet8o1_500.gif)
YOU SHIP TEO LEE?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 01:42:48 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljzp0flMwA1qzlet8o1_500.gif)
YOU SHIP TEO LEE?

Appropriate use of gif is appropriate.

No one ships Teo Lee harder than Teo.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 07:11:19 AM
Sometimes I forget how cute this ship is.

And then I look at them.

And it's flawless.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 07:23:18 AM
No one I've yet presented the idea to has had any material objections, and virtually always ends up shipping it (or at the very least, multishipping it).  It's simply A Good Idea.

Ya hear that, Bryke?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 07:36:23 AM
As far as I can tell, they simply don't exist.  Even the 2% of people who don't ship it once they know about it aren't really antagonistic towards it at all. They're just like "eh, don't really ship. Neat idea, but don't really ship," and that's the end of it.

It's the ship that nobody can hate!
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 29, 2013, 09:27:15 AM
Oh, just be careful not to underestimate the fierceness of the Ty Zula fanbase. They are pretty serious (canon serious) about their ship. Yup.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Schmitty on January 29, 2013, 09:32:50 AM
Shiney, you should know by now that shippers don't care about what canon says if it disproves their OTP.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 29, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
^ I do believe they are, Shiney. But then again I also believe that sexy dances are romantic developent.

As you can see, I am clearly clueless when it comes to this stuff.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Appropriate Gollum gif is appropriate.

Admittedly, there is some subtexty stuff for Tyzula. Not much barely any at all, but there is some very minor subtext.  And the fact that Ty Lee is very literally the only person who has ever loved Azula unconditionally. But me? I take that for the awesome (dysfunctional) platonic friendship it is.  Because they're both demonstrably fond of gentlemen, not ladies.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 08:14:59 PM
Precisely.

And for the most part, the Ty Laru shippers aren't particularly intense, because the only place that ship ever happened was in School Time Shipping (and since Blutara is canon in STS, I don't put a whole lot of stock in that).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 08:27:52 PM
That's because Teo Lee is wonderful, does not contradict anything in canon, enhances both characters in beautiful ways, and doesn't harm or degrade any characters.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 29, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
...I kind of want to see that now.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 04:29:21 AM
Both, apparently. Which you did. And it was beautiful.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 07:02:44 AM
Soooooo... how bout that topic-bending?

I'm planning on a new chapter of Almost Airbenders for later in the week.  It's kind of a setup chapter, but it also has all kinds of awesome stuff (a lovely little chat between Aang and Teo, for instance).  And also some other awkwardly cute stuff.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 07:46:19 AM
I've got the next three chapters outlined, I just need to write them.

And frankly the way they're shaping up is a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

Especially the role that Suki plays, believe it or not.  I didn't anticipate that while planning it, but it became really obvious that it needed to happen as I got around to outlining Chapter 5 (or is it Chapter 4? I don't even recall right now).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 08:02:56 AM
Well, the next chapter's gonna have a heavy helping of all three!

...not so much the Suki one, not in this chapter (though she does appear), but the Kataang and the Teo Lee and the Aang/Teo friendship (which is one of my favorite friendships-we-didn't-get-to-see in the series).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 08:29:31 AM
I can't imagine them ending up on ATI, but I can definitely picture them ending up in R-City. With so many people around, so many things to tinker with and build, Teo would be well-appreciated in the city (I can imagine Sokka going to him every single time they ran into some kind of technical problem the Council couldn't solve on its own).  And Ty Lee? Oh man, Ty Lee was born for the big city.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
*makes eyes at other Teo Lee-inclined writers*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
There's too much Teo Lee for the WHOLE WORLD to handle!  But I shall do my humble best.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 30, 2013, 04:52:28 PM
*is devising plans to help spread the knowledge of Teo Lee's existence across the fandom*

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/Bigtool4u/gricnh.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Nukilik... are you gonna draw fanart?

Because if so... can I please big you, pretty please with sugar on top, for a Teo Lee kiss?  Because I really want that.  Kind of a lot.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Nukilik on January 30, 2013, 06:53:51 PM
^ Why, of course, Melon! Kissy times yay XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
Gooooood.

Because I can't manip a kiss. What with neither Teo nor Ty Lee having ever kissed anybody in the series, I can't even pull off a kiss on the cheek or something.

But Teo Lee NEED kissy-times.  *pokes at random artists*  *also pokes at Nukilik*
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 30, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Imma try to sketch some Teo Lee, but I make no promises because my art skillz aren't much more advanced than Shiney's.
<< Post Merge: January 31, 2013, 12:17:58 AM >>


On another note...

Can we just take a second to appreciate the fact that thelittleturtleduck wrote the Teo Lee prompt I gave her?  And actually understood Teo Lee? Like, got them as a couple (well, pre-couple) and wrote them well?

...my evil plan is working.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 31, 2013, 08:21:38 AM
Next time any of the ATLA fanfickers I follow on tumblr ask for drabble prompts, I'm working Teo Lee in there.

The whole fandom must ship this.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 31, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
You must help me with this, Shiney!  Anytime any of the blogs you follow asks for prompts... give them Teo Lee prompts.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 31, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
Haha, I guess we just need to follow more people...
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on January 31, 2013, 09:27:54 PM
Maybe we should all just give up and move to Svalbard. Then we'd all be in the same time zone (and we'd be on Svalbard).
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 07:53:06 AM
So... anyway... 'bout that Teo Lee...

Almost Airbenders is set back a bit.  Coz I was gonna write some tonight... and then I kinda didn't.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 08:12:28 AM
Eh. My extraordinary apathy towards literally everything is reaching pre-Zuko!Mai levels.

I have Kataang feels. I have Teo Lee feels. I know the Hammer of Shiney is waiting to crush me if I don't deliver.

But I have absolutely no impetus to write.

Tomorrow, though, after I'm through with my classes, I shall write extensively.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 03:31:47 PM
Anyway, as I've been thinking it over, my choice of title just got really appropriate.  Because somehow along the way, this story became about the new Air Nation almost as much as it is about Teo Lee (and Kataang).  The beauty of the Air Acolytes in their early days is turning out to be a really interesting theme to base the story around.  It's like this sweet gold and orange trellis that the initial romance between the Almost Airbenders is hung on (not to mention the next step in the Kataang love story) and framed by.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
So much Kataang. SO MUCH.  Originally there wasn't gonna be much. Just little bits and bobbles, nothing too dramatic, just one or possibly two fluffy scenes.  And then the whole tone of the fic changed.

Well, not so much the tone as the scope.  What was supposed to be 3-5 chapters of Teo Lee fluff turned into 7-12 chapters of Teo Lee fluff + Kataang romance + politics + Air Nation squee + possibly an assassination attempt, I haven't quite decided.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 05:13:44 PM
Comes with the territory of being a writer.  And ATLA fanfic makes it SO easy!  Especially when dealing with anything related to the Air Nation, honestly.

I really like the assassination attempt plotline, but I haven't made up my mind whether I'm going to use it or not, because if I do, it's going to make the fic get really heavy really fast, and as much as I love me a good A-plot (LOVE me a good A-plot), I don't know if I want the A-plot for this particular fic to be too heavy. I mostly just want to play around with one or two political decisions regarding the URN and the new Air Nation.  If I throw in the assassination that's brewing in my mind, it'll go to kind of a darker place.

But then again, do I really want to shy away from that?  And it would be a really intriguing, multi-layered matter with a lot of emotional layers because it's steeped in... well, I won't say anything, in order not to give it away in case I do write it in.  But the decision as to whether or not to use it (because make no mistake, whether I write it into this fic or not, I AM using this plot-line someday) is somewhat paralyzing.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 06:06:33 PM
Oh, the assassination attempt would very much not be on Aang. At all.  Nobody can hate Aang because he's just really really good at loving everybody.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 01, 2013, 11:01:30 PM
Well, long story short, the assassination plot is seeming more and more appealing (and fits better and better with this particular story the more I think about it) and it really gets to the heart of a lot of things I want to explore with the whole post-war-politicking subplot, particularly regarding the new Air Nation.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on February 02, 2013, 03:24:47 PM
I wonder how Ty Lee would describe Teo's aura?
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 02, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
Ooh, that's a tricky question. I feel like Teo would have a very pretty blue aura. Placid, peaceful, but also energized and like the sky.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: A6 on February 03, 2013, 02:56:03 PM
Inviting the Teo Lee community to participate in the next Avatar Writing Contest

http://thekorraconnection.com/index.php?topic=1604.0

A6
Writing Moderator
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Spruce on February 03, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
I do hope you write a sweet moment between the two wherein she describes his aura to him, and he gets all bashful :D.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 03, 2013, 07:38:26 PM
I'm on that with the contest like white on rice!  Now I just have to pick a theme to write around...

Maybe I'll go with the aura thing. Might be interesting, if I can pull it off well.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: A6 on February 04, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
Great to have you join! The theme is listed on the Contest opening post for your convenience :)
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 07, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Excellent!  I'm working on a little something.
Title: Re: Teo Lee
Post by: Seluna on February 08, 2013, 07:11:49 AM
Congratulations, you guys. I upgraded Teo Lee to an official ship board on TKC. I hope you guys utilize it well and thought you might enjoy it! <3
I'd really like to see topics start branching out of just the general discussion threads here and everywhere else on the ship boards. ;) That's what boards are for after all. :D

Have fun!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
Oh my god.

*fangirls*

WE GOT OUR OWN CHILD BOARD!

I feel like we need to throw a party for Teo Lee becoming a serious, real thing now.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Schmitty on February 08, 2013, 07:51:06 AM
Congratulations to Teo Lee getting its own board!
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/9/13/jbKXHH3e10-Q8CVNnfYphQ2.gif)
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hey_29be1e_2792258.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0het7Conv1rqq1iao1_400.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m90fszFmNp1rwz405o1_500.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/Kumma.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 07:58:02 AM
I started a Teo Lee art thread in honor of this special event.

Now imma go learn to draw so that I can make my own Teo Lee pretties.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 08:28:55 AM
Shiney.

You just used Tom Baker, Snow White, and Barack Obama in a post about Teo Lee.

...

...

...

...can I fly to Denmark for the express purpose of hugging you or something?
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 09:05:27 AM
Worth it.

Anyway, I have made a decision.

The decision is this.

There will be Teo Lee in Fireflight.  I shall make it so.  And I even have a pretty good idea as to how, too!  Let's just say that while Book 1 of Fireflight adheres pretty solidly to ATLA as we know it, and Book 2 follows that pattern to a somewhat lesser degree, Book 3 is going to get a little crazy.

By which I mean "Ty Lee is the worst spy ever and experiences a minor case of Stockholm Syndrome."

.....aaaaaaaaaand I'll just leave it at that, because spoilers, but. Yeah.  There shall be Teo Lee (or at the very least, Teo Lee hints) and it shall be glorious because then ALL THE OTPS WILL BE CANON!!!!!  *evil laughter*
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 09:25:06 AM
It really will be.  Teo Lee will get teased like crazy with them meeting on --censored for spoilers-- and then again at Zuko's coronation probably flirting shamelessly.  And of course there's the Kataang, which is gonna be... well... wow.  And the Maiko is gonna be more thorough and the Sukka is gonna be more thorough and there will be Teo Lee!!!!!

Maybe only teased Teo Lee, where everybody knows that they're gonna hook up eventually, but we don't actually see that, but it's gonna be there.

And if, after Fireflight, Melon decides to tackle The Promise and Melonify that? Then yes, there's gonna be some flipping Teo Lee.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Nukilik on February 08, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
This occasion requires me to stop doing actual work and focusing on what is important: Teo lee kisses!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 08, 2013, 03:37:57 PM
YES!  PLEASE!  DRAW TEO LEE KISSES!  PUT THEM ON TUMBLR!  THEN PUT THEM IN THE TEO LEE ART DUMP THREAD!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Nukilik on February 25, 2013, 12:30:01 AM
I swear I just found this here (http://forums.avatarspirit.net/index.php?topic=21205.7300)

(http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/08b4fb3d44e1c4450e6fcffa800babc6/http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/_dark_fire_/tynora.jpg)

seems revant enough XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 25, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
RELEVANT POST IS RELEVANT.

I swear six ways to Sunday that the airbabies are descended of Ty Lee (and of course if they're descended of Ty Lee, they're descended of Teo).  There is no other possible explanation for Ikki.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on February 25, 2013, 07:52:40 PM
Teo Lee must be canon. Airbabies must be descended from Teo Lee.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5014fMtJq1rniqz2.gif)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: LadyKatara on March 06, 2013, 01:17:53 AM
Lol Melon, that gif never ceases to be awesome.
After reading a lot of posts in this thread, I have decided to ship Teo Lee, like seriously. xD
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 06, 2013, 03:22:10 AM
Welcome to the Ship of Insanity Adorableness!

It really is one ship that nobody can dislike, I swear.  The only more lovable ATLA pairing is IrohxTea, which as we all know is the most canon of ATLA pairings...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 06, 2013, 07:08:41 AM
I think this is a canonicity test that requires quantitative proof.  We must count all the times Zuko talks about honor (or people talk about honor with relation to Zuko) and compare it to all the times Iroh talks about tea (or people talk about tea with relation to Iroh).  That should be sufficient to determine which one is more canon.

But then again... now that I think about it, honor was definitely cheating on Zuko with both Sokka and Aang, so.....
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 06, 2013, 07:47:53 AM
Okay. We're done. Everyone can go home now, Shiney's won the internet.

Seriously, that may be the greatest post anyone in this fandom has ever made, ever.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Nukilik on March 07, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Uhm, yes what are you insinuating? A couple with drama is so much better than the steady and strong going. Iroh and Tea was just a boring couple, so predictable and I also didn't think they were very well-matched, referring to Iroh's unhealthy obsession and, probably unrequited puppy love that he refused to get over - even when this "love" puts him in a potentially dangerous situation, like when he heated the tea in front of Jet. The relationship was so unequal, anyway, it was always Iroh doing the job, and getting the price. Tea basically had nothing in it.

Zuho kept us on our toes - we had something to engage us self in. It was exciting, drama filled and hell was it sexy. There was potential, and it was without a doubt the most mature and well-developed couple in the whole show.

OMFG

Melon is right, it is one of the best things I ever read :O

No yuans can suffice.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 07, 2013, 06:40:51 PM
Can we start a Tearoh vs. Zuho ship war now?
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 07, 2013, 06:54:19 PM
But Tearoh is so endgame!  I mean, what do you think that last scene in the Jasmine Dragon was about, huh?
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 07, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Oh my god, what are you smoking?  Iroh and Tea started their lifelong love affair before Zuko was even born!  Their relationship has stood the test of time and all the burdens and hardships Iroh has had to endure. Tea was there for him when his son died- was possibly his only comfort during that difficult time.  And Iroh is the only one who ever truly gave Tea the love and respect it deserves, carefully infusing it with all the care it needs to reach it's full potential.  As he himself said:

Quote from: Iroh
The secret ingredient is Love.

And as for Zuho... don't even get me started.  Zuko may have been 100% there for Honor, he may be committed to this thing all the way... but Honor isn't.  In case you missed it, Honor was cheating on Zuko with both Aang and Sokka during like all of Book 3.  Zuko's just setting himself up to get his heart broken the second he discovers just how faithless Honor has been to him!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Nukilik on March 07, 2013, 08:14:11 PM
*me reading this thread*

(http://media.tumblr.com/75f981f2990a2d6ce7a1cc4f2eb95c0f/tumblr_inline_mg5wqkqggC1rao0jp.gif)

I know! Can I multiship? Then I can even be that person that makes tons of posts in the tags stating that I'm 'OMG sick of the wars' and how I like both even though no one really cares :D
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 07, 2013, 08:35:14 PM
...time to flood the Tearoh tag with posts... who's with me?

Shiney feel free to post all the hate in the Tearoh tag that you want, because it just gives me an excuse to complain about how Zuho shippers are such jerks.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 07, 2013, 08:53:35 PM
And talking about it, lol, where the hell did you get the idea that Iroh's feelings were even reciprocated in the first place? It was basically an unhealthy obsession, it was selfish and he was completely unable to see himself out of it. That's not a good relationship.

Oh puh-lease. Tea may not have been talking about it, because it's not really a chatty sort, but believe me, if you pay attention the affection is there. Where would Tea be if there were no Iroh to lovingly tend to it? Nowhere, that's where. Who else is gonna respect Tea and love it the way Iroh does? Nobody, that's who.

And are you kidding me with one-sided relationship talk here?  Zuko hung his whole happiness around Honor's neck. He idealized it and insisted that Honor was the only thing he needed to be happy. If Honor couldn't deliver, if Honor couldn't give him exactly what he expected it to, he got sulky and turned volatile.  That just screams abusive relationship in the making, to me.  Who says Honor even wanted to be glorified that way, huh?
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Spruce on March 08, 2013, 04:01:47 AM
...this is the most brilliant indictment of the overly hostile nature of ATLA shipping possibly ever.

It's like a beautifully bizarre piece of Internet performance art.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 08, 2013, 04:06:21 AM
Welcome to The Shiney & Melon Show, going strong since Autumn '12...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Schmitty on March 10, 2013, 01:35:07 AM
Shiney, Melon, it's moments like these that remind why I love you both.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 10, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
We are true artistes.

No, but seriously, Tearoh 4 lyfe.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 10, 2013, 09:05:47 PM
# of ZuHo moments in ATLA: 20

# of Tearoh moments in ATLA: 38

The numbers speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 10, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
Are you kidding? Did you even watch DoBS? Tea was so committed to it's relationship with Iroh that it found a way to come to him even in prison!  Zuko spent the first 60% of Book 3 questioning whether Honor could really make him happy, but Iroh and Tea never wavered in their devotion to each other!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Cowboy Colt on March 10, 2013, 09:56:54 PM
This is the most awesome ship debate ever! And the best part is that it will stay civil!(I hope so anyway. ;D)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 10, 2013, 11:45:01 PM
<<briefly stepping OOC for a moment to say that I love how Tearoh is clearly Kataang in this scenario>>

Are you kidding me? Zuko needed to grow and change, there's no question about that. But don't you think that growth might have been more effective if he had been motivated for his own sake, for his own personal growth, rather than changing himself for someone else?  Did Honor change for Zuko? No it did not!  But Tea was so flexible. Tea was so malleable and multiflavored and could change to fit better with Iroh's lifestyle without being untrue to itself- indeed, possibly by being truer to itself than ever.

And let's not forget how Tea was Iroh's whole reason to appreciate and be grateful to Ming.  It was Iroh's love for Tea that inspired him to warn her away for her safety.  In contrast, Zuko's love for Honor only ever prompted him to take dangerous actions that negatively impacted those around him!
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Spruce on March 11, 2013, 12:25:52 AM
In honor of Villain Week: who or what do you think would be the biggest nemesis to this union? either in terms of breaking it up, or a no kidding threat to either of them.

The first thing I can thin of is Azula, in the event she went on a revenge spree. She strikes me as someone who wouldn't be afraid of using Ty Lee's heart against her by threatening to do horrible things to Teo...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Cassidy Alice on March 12, 2013, 01:48:21 AM
In honor of Villain Week: who or what do you think would be the biggest nemesis to this union? either in terms of breaking it up, or a no kidding threat to either of them.

The first thing I can thin of is Azula, in the event she went on a revenge spree. She strikes me as someone who wouldn't be afraid of using Ty Lee's heart against her by threatening to do horrible things to Teo...

Azula, definitely. She was jealous of Ty Lee when she has all those guys vying for her attention in The Beach. But, other than Azula, I can't think of anyone who'd being a threat to their relationship. Maybe Ty Lee's family, but that seems bit of stretch since we know next to nothing about them and since they probably don't count as villians. XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Spruce on March 12, 2013, 02:06:48 AM
There's so much potential in Azula blackmailing Ty Lee using Teo's life. It brings a chill to the Teo Lee'ers soul :(...

...and yet, it would be so emotional beautiful O_O.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fourtune on March 12, 2013, 02:08:14 AM
Not to mention, with the popularity of Ty Zula, Bryke would have no problem writing Azula interfering with Teo Lee if it fit the storyline, even if for no other reason than just to poke at the hornet's nest.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 12, 2013, 02:10:10 AM
Oh god, if a ship war breaks out between Teo Lee and Ty Zula, I will have to ragequit the fandom for some time.

No, but seriously, I can imagine Azula blackmailing Ty Lee using Teo's safety as a threat, and I can imagine it being an awesome plotline.

I can also imagine the Mechanist's complicated history making things complicated.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 12, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
Although to be fair, if any friendship between ostensibly heterosexual characters in ATLA were to be a secret cover for a homosexual relationship, it probably would be Ty Zula.

I mean, Ty Lee is the only person who genuinely and unconditionally loved her, ever.

I have all kinds of Ty Zula feels, just none of them are shippy because Teo Lee is at OTP status.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 12, 2013, 08:45:47 AM
Haven't you learned by now, Shiney?  People will ship anything.  That's the reason Aang/Yue shipping is a legitimate thing that happens.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 12, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
For some reason that makes me picture you running around in a bloodstained wedding gown wielding a semi-automatic rifle and a chainsaw...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 13, 2013, 02:39:29 AM
Oh, that's right!  (Would you still have the semi-automatic, though?)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Cassidy Alice on March 13, 2013, 02:58:21 AM
For some reason that makes me picture you running around in a bloodstained wedding gown wielding a semi-automatic rifle and a chainsaw...

Like Seargent Calhoun? XD
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 13, 2013, 04:11:36 AM
For some reason that makes me picture you running around in a bloodstained wedding gown wielding a semi-automatic rifle and a chainsaw...

Like Seargent Calhoun? XD

Yes
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 22, 2013, 09:40:29 PM
If that happened I would have a spazzy fit and die.

Though if it's one of Gene's favorites, it's probably Sneers.

But if it was Teo and it was a mention by Ty Lee, my life would honestly be complete because then ALL my Avatar OTPs would be canon as hell and that would be pretty much the first time ~ever~ that that's happened to me.

Oh wait I forgot Korrasami... Kohdammit...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 22, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
YES SHINEY CONTACT GENE YANG ANY WAY YOU CAN SEND HIM A MESSAGE SOMEHOW WE MUST PRESS FOR CANON TEO LEE BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE MY WORLD IN WAYS I CANNOT EVEN EXPLAIN.

...capslock was necessary, I swear...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 22, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
We'll surely figure it out.  I would stay to work on it right now but I have Things To Do and Places To Be.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 23, 2013, 09:37:05 PM
It wiiiiiiiiilllllllllllll...

Oh my lord, if we actually got canon Teo Lee, even just IMPLIED Teo Lee (I would even take Teo Lee as subtle as the Zuki ship-baiting that's been going on), I would explode.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 24, 2013, 05:55:46 PM
If I didn't have a little thing called work standing in my way, I would be at ALL the cons probably cosplaying as Suki and spreading the word of Teo Lee.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 24, 2013, 06:22:40 PM
It must happen. It MUST happen.

And honestly, I wouldn't be at all shocked if there were more comics.  They sell quite well and I can't imagine Nick passing up the profit.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 25, 2013, 08:21:20 AM
That's why I bought two copies (one that Jack has on back-order for me, arriving a week from Wednesday, and one from Amazon that should be arriving tomorrow).

~le sale boost~
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 26, 2013, 09:44:03 AM
I'm pretty sure that the number of evil revenges that have crossed my mind is more than a little absurd.  But I'm refraining, because I'm doing my best to take deep breaths and React Like Aang.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 26, 2013, 09:49:36 AM
Oh, I guess that's better than "accidentally" leaving his shop door standing open during a rainstorm and allowing the resulting humidity to dramatically decrease the value of some of his rarer collectible editions...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 26, 2013, 08:57:26 PM
I like that plan.  Devaluing the hard-won, extremely expensive collectible editions he has, though, just sounds like better revenge. I mean, he spent hundreds or even thousands of dollars acquiring some of those comic books... if he could only resale for like twenty bucks that would be sad but hilarious.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Spruce on March 26, 2013, 09:14:41 PM
My shop is only special ordering by request. So, hopefully they'll have mine after I put the request in last week (after finding out that they didn't have any for me to buy when I got there ;_;)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 26, 2013, 09:22:44 PM
Naw, I'll just stare at him passive aggressively when I go to pick up my copy I special ordered from him, and then go in two or three times a week, look around for twenty minutes, then leave without buying anything.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Nukilik on March 27, 2013, 01:24:26 AM
Quote (selected)
go in two or three times a week, look around for twenty minutes, then leave without buying anything.

Someone has to save Melon from herself. Woman is out of control.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 27, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
*grins and chuckles evilly*
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on March 27, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
You don't know Jack. (lulz)
You don't know how paranoid he gets when people come in and then don't buy stuff.
Trust me, this is the most brilliant evil plan ever.
He's going to need therapy within a month if I keep it up.

On an unrelated note... TEAROH CONTINUES TO BE SO CANON IT HURTS. The Search contains no ZuHo evidence, but it's laden with Tearoh.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 06, 2013, 07:28:43 AM
Man, how does this have so many pages? It's not even an official canon ship. XDD Still a great one though.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on June 06, 2013, 11:47:04 AM
It's not even an official canon ship.

You do remember which fandom you're dealing with, right?  The two most popular ships in the fandom by an ENORMOUS margin are 100% fanon...
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on June 06, 2013, 09:54:12 PM
Yes, Tokka. Tokka is unabashedly the most popular Sokka-ship by a wide margin.  Which is a shame, because even Toph wasn't shipping Tokka by the end of the series...

But yeah, Shiney pretty much hit the nail on the head- the two of us ship it kind of a lot and when we love something we talk about it. A lot. Even if no one else gives a damn.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 06, 2013, 10:03:38 PM
You two are crazies. And I love it. XDD

Shush you, Tokka is amazing.
<< Post Merge: June 06, 2013, 10:06:37 PM >>


It's not even an official canon ship.

You do remember which fandom you're dealing with, right?  The two most popular ships in the fandom by an ENORMOUS margin are 100% fanon...


Well to be fair I was kinda tired when I wrote that. And I didn't mention fanon because this is fanon. I was merely talking about ships on this forum, where the canon ones are the most popular.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 07, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
Well, to be fair to your... fairness, this is a particularly fanon ship, in that is has no established canon interaction at all. They don't even have a connection other than mutual acquaintances. Both Tokka and Zutara has, and while that doesn't make romantic implication any more justified, it's easier to drag people in.



That is true. But isn't that what makes Teo Lee great?
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: A6 on June 07, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
Well, to be fair to your... fairness, this is a particularly fanon ship, in that is has no established canon interaction at all. They don't even have a connection other than mutual acquaintances. Both Tokka and Zutara has, and while that doesn't make romantic implication any more justified, it's easier to drag people in.

Also, I don't know if this is a particularly canon shipping site. Granted, the Kataang threads are spammed, but again - Melon and I ship it. Still, there's quite a lot of Tokka (I think), as well as some for the other fanon ATLA ships. As for LoK, I think the support for both Borra and Korrasami far outweighs the Makorra shippers. That's my impression, anyway. :-P

But there are a few of us that remain true to canon - I am a proud card-carrying Kataang, Makorra, Tenma, Sukka, Maiko shipper. I do not deny nor criticize the other fanon shippers. But I like what's right there in front of us. :)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on June 07, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Well, to be fair to your... fairness, this is a particularly fanon ship, in that is has no established canon interaction at all. They don't even have a connection other than mutual acquaintances. Both Tokka and Zutara has, and while that doesn't make romantic implication any more justified, it's easier to drag people in.

That is true. But isn't that what makes Teo Lee great?

That's definitely a part of it.  I love having such a blank canvas to work on, because it gives me more freedom as a creative mind. Teo Lee can be anything I build of them and that's fantastic.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 07, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
Well, to be fair to your... fairness, this is a particularly fanon ship, in that is has no established canon interaction at all. They don't even have a connection other than mutual acquaintances. Both Tokka and Zutara has, and while that doesn't make romantic implication any more justified, it's easier to drag people in.

That is true. But isn't that what makes Teo Lee great?

That's definitely a part of it.  I love having such a blank canvas to work on, because it gives me more freedom as a creative mind. Teo Lee can be anything I build of them and that's fantastic.

That's basically like writing an original story. It's the fun part, the blank slate you get to work on and develop all on your own. You only have to follow your rules,  no one else's.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: The Melon Lord Approves on June 08, 2013, 04:12:48 AM
That's a fairly accurate assessment. And then one must consider the poetic beauty of Teo Lee, which has a sort of perfection all its own.  They're Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom... but they're also both throwbacks to the Air Nomads, in a way.  They both have that spirit, and I love it.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fourtune on June 08, 2013, 11:42:12 AM

We're openly saying they're Pema's parents, though. That's gotta count for something as far as how blank the slate actually is.


(Wait…then again, it's us that are saying it…and it's directly got to do with subtle resemblance and the "throwbacks to the Air Nomads" thing, which, it's really parts of fandom that picked up on this when it comes to Ty Lee…)


And in a way, the whole "blank slate" thing does speak to me as part of why I like crossover ideas so much, as well as why original characters are so popular in general. You do basically get to sprinkle in your own thoughts and what-ifs a little bit ALONG WITH your interpretations of canon. OCs are tougher for me in general, because not only is there an inherent risk there that this character's gonna get turned into a Sue (especially if the author's not trustworthy), but my mind's eye has a bit of a tough time actually visualizing characters I've never seen before. But having more freedom to work with is not a bad thing at all, especially within the structure of events that took place in a generally great canon.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2013, 03:52:23 AM
That's a fairly accurate assessment. And then one must consider the poetic beauty of Teo Lee, which has a sort of perfection all its own.  They're Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom... but they're also both throwbacks to the Air Nomads, in a way.  They both have that spirit, and I love it.

Well put. Makes me want to ship it more. I haven't fully converted to this ship yet, although I have flirted with the idea a bit.

And speaking of Pema. You know who she reminds me of? Pacha's wife from Emperor's New Groove. Not just because they're hair is similar and they're both pregnant, but they also have very similar personalities. Think about it.
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: A6 on June 09, 2013, 05:24:50 PM
But there are a few of us that remain true to canon - I am a proud card-carrying Kataang, Makorra, Tenma, Sukka, Maiko shipper. I do not deny nor criticize the other fanon shippers. But I like what's right there in front of us. :)

You can definitely count me in there. My ships are the canon ships - some of them I'm more attached to than others, but they are still the ones I'll follow loyally until I'm told to do otherwise. Because, even if the relationship doesn't appeal to me, it's what appeals to the involved characters - and it's their rules of love that's important, not mine. I'm very against forcing my view of an ideal relationship or love or partner onto someone else if they're explicitly disagreeing with me, even in fiction.

I will deny the fanon ships if they are denied by canon, but I respect the right to have differing opinions. With LoK (or even with Maiko or Sukka), I don't think the endgame romance is necessarily settled in stone yet, so I'm open for discussion and opportunities, like Borra or Korrasami, (though frankly I feel, with Korra's current characterization, Makorra is the only ship that makes sense at the moment).

But yeah, canon shipper - always and anywhere - and quite strong in that. But also a person to whom a story doesn't die when it's over - it continues in my head and my heart.

That's where there's ships like Teo Lee. I'd slightly disagree that it's "completely blank territory" - it's not, it's within an established story with established characters. But what the ship is about, is an unexplored part of the story. We basically know nothing about this part of these characters life - their future, if or who they married, whether they had kids, whatever they did for a living. Stuff like that, we know nothing about - so we're giving characters who have no story a story. That's what it's about.

It's still our story, or our adding to the story, - not Bryke's, not canon - and I'll be ready to change my opinion if Bryke tell me to do so, but until then, I'll keep my headcanons for these characters, just like I have headcanons about the characters, the ships, I know more about. To me, there's not really a difference in that, just because we're talking about a romantic relationship. It's "filling in the blanks" and it doesn't contradict with anything - we're just continuing the stories in our own heads.

Also, as an extra bonus to this ship, we have our Pema theory, which is beyond poetically beautiful on so many levels.


You've done a commendable and entirely believable, as well as entertaining, job of creating the new ship for us from the blank canvas between the generations of characters. :)
Title: Re: Teo Lee General Discussion
Post by: Fenix on June 10, 2013, 02:37:33 AM
For me when it comes to shipping I'm still more of a canon shipper, unless I don't like the canon ship then I'll choose the next best (and better in my opinion) thing. Or if I'm just shipping fanon for kicks and possible inspiration. That's usually when I multi-ship. Though there are times when I multi-ship because the character has multiple love interests, aka harem. The only time I really hate a fanon ship is when I feel it disrupts canon in a really bad way. I may do fanon shipping, but I still like my canon.