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Tenma General Discussion!
« on: November 22, 2012, 10:39:48 AM »


A place for Tenma general discussion! Remember, no bashing, constructive arguments only.

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 01:40:19 AM »
There needs to be more of this in the series!


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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 04:41:32 AM »
Truly my favorite ship of ALOK!
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 10:39:42 AM »
I love Pemzin (or Tenma, or whatever we're calling it these days).

Seriously, the way they are with each other is just ridiculously adorable. They're just so, so, SO... well, married.  They've worn their grooves in each other and they fit together.  She's the only person in the world who can absolutely have him cowed- not just flustered (because it's ridiculously easy to get Tenzin flustered)- but genuinely cowed.

And unfortunately we don't know too much about Pema which is what led to my headcanon about her being the daughter of Teo and Ty Lee because that is the best fanon ship ever and two Almost Airbenders have to be the airbabies' other set of grandparents but I really like her and I want so much more of her next season.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 11:27:54 AM »
And even without the airbabies... my headcanon of them is adorable.  The way they met (Tenzin trained Pema in the airbending forms, as he had so many other Air Acolytes before her), the process of falling in love (and Tenzin's complete and utter surprise over how on earth this had happened, as he was utterly oblivious before he was in too far to get out), the...

OH GOD THEY'RE JUST TOO ADORABLE TOO MANY PEMZIN FEELS.

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 04:16:53 PM »
Tenma (or Pemzin as I usually call them) gave us the airbabies. You. Just. Can't. Dislike. It.

Really, it impossible.

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Even though there wasn't a whole lot of Tenma moments in LoK, I love them!

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 04:22:17 PM »
Tenma (or Pemzin as I usually call them) gave us the airbabies. You. Just. Can't. Dislike. It.

Really, it impossible.

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Even though there wasn't a whole lot of Tenma moments in LoK, I love them!
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 04:38:59 PM »
I love this couple so much, they're just adorable.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 05:09:04 PM »
I agree with everyone's sentiments about them (Tenma/Pemzin - either way is good here).

The kids are so cute and spunky,  they have incredible skills (defeating Equalists).

Tenzin and Pema are sweet together, very loving, and great parents.  Seeing Tenzin run when he heard Rohan's first wail was endearing.

Pema shows us she doesn't take a lot of guff from Tenzin.

I completely identify with this couple - Tenzin because of similarity in age and temperament, and while I am older than my wife, not the same gap. But they sure are similar! :)


And the single most entertaining moment for me about them was when Asami and Mako were fighting in the kitchen when Pema has that first contraction, and her face as she walks off camera expressing shock over the coming Asami/Mako snarkiness to each other was truly priceless!

I hope they are explored further in the next seasons of ALOK!
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 05:30:19 PM »
Right on target ShineyFishes!

I am definitely not a Pema basher. I think that one scene when she reveals she pursued Tenzin (the details of which I'd love to hear/see in the coming season), the advice she gives Korra is from her point of view as a 35 year old with her oldest girl only being 10.  She meant well but had NO experience with teen age girls and how it might be interpreted.

I remember those days of childrearing, and giving advice to ten year old girls as a father was much easier than relating to my teen daughter at the time.  We managed to figure it out how to communicate though... ;)
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 05:51:24 PM »
Exactly.  People dump all this crap on Pema for relatively stupid reasons (she "stole" Tenzin from the "more deserving" Lin, she gave "stupid" advice to Korra, she's a full-time wife and mother and somehow that's a bad thing), and I hate it, because she's wonderful and she has such a fun personality. She's very sweet, but she has this subtle little edge to her, something that gives her the strength and sense of humor to put up with the craziness of being married to Tenzin.

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 07:25:02 PM »
I know lotsa people who thought that Lin and Tenzin belong together and even rewrote the series so that they're together (I've seen people on ff.net say they HATE Pema and stuff...) Anyway, no.

There's nothing wrong with shipping Linzin (in my sketches, baby Lin has a crush on baby Tenzin), but it's very obvious that Pema and Tenzin  belong together. I mean, they're friggin married. What more do you want? And I was surprised at the age difference, but I just LOVE that ship. There isn't enough fanfiction (smut) of them. And I want more in season two! I'll even settle for a kiss. They're married. Nothing wrong with showing them kiss, Bryke.


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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2012, 08:48:39 PM »
I know lotsa people who thought that Lin and Tenzin belong together and even rewrote the series so that they're together (I've seen people on ff.net say they HATE Pema and stuff...) Anyway, no.

I knooowwwww!  What is WITH that?  Seriously, it's at the point where I'm starting to think Linzin is the new Zutara and Pemzin is the new Kataang.  One is all "opposites attract" and was probably a very intense relationship back in the day when they were young and whatnot (except unlike Zutara, Lin and Tenzin actually did have actual romantic attraction for each other), and an insane amount of people love the pairing.  The other is canon/endgame/whatever and the two people involved are clearly very compatible and love each other very much... but hate gets dumped on it (and one partner in particular).

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2012, 09:21:45 PM »
Exactly.  All this "stupid Pema (removed) stole Tenzin from his 1 tru luv Lin!!!1!!1eleven" crap is just ridiculous.  Come on. Do you really think Tenzin, son of Katara, would lose his girlfriend and just awkwardly fall into a relationship he didn't want just because some much younger girl told him she was in love with him?

But then again, maybe that's the problem: too many people in this fandom also seem to think Katara is a spineless girl who couldn't possibly be with someone because she loves them, she must be with them because she thought she had to...

No.  Pema did not "steal" Tenzin, regardless of how Korra (a relatively naive 17-year-old) may have phrased it. If Tenzin didn't want to be "stolen," Pema's love confession would have meant nothing and Linzin would still be canon.  As it is, Tenzin and Lin's relationship was clearly already falling apart (or at least weakening) by the time Pema became a factor, and he wanted to be with Pema so he was with Pema.  End of story.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2012, 09:38:45 PM »
No.  Pema did not "steal" Tenzin, regardless of how Korra (a relatively naive 17-year-old) may have phrased it. If Tenzin didn't want to be "stolen," Pema's love confession would have meant nothing and Linzin would still be canon.  As it is, Tenzin and Lin's relationship was clearly already falling apart (or at least weakening) by the time Pema became a factor, and he wanted to be with Pema so he was with Pema.  End of story.
Exactly. Tenzin doesn't seem like the kinda guy who would leave his girlfriend just cause another girl said she loved him. And Tenzin even said that Pema didn't steal her, they were growing apart and had different goals in life.

Like what a lot of you were saying, if he didn't feel the same way about Pema, he wouldn't have left Lin. If Pema never came into the picture, they pro'lly would have broken up anyway.


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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 10:36:44 PM »
Both of you are making good points.

I hate to say it happened to me, but it did.

I was in a slowing growing 'just OK' relationship with someone sophomore year in college, and along comes a wonderful freshman, who turned my head in an instant not just physically, but spiritually, and philosophically as well.

And nearly 40 years later I am still with her. I GET what happened to Tenzin.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 12:09:22 AM »
Both of you are making good points.

I hate to say it happened to me, but it did.

I was in a slowing growing 'just OK' relationship with someone sophomore year in college, and along comes a wonderful freshman, who turned my head in an instant not just physically, but spiritually, and philosophically as well.

And nearly 40 years later I am still with her. I GET what happened to Tenzin.

And really, this just goes to show that awesome guys sometimes have to make tough decisions about love that doesn't make them less awesome (I HATE the Tenzin bashers, really this relationship is one of the most realistic in the show). Men don't always run off to the younger women because they wanna have sexitiems, sometimes these relationships are substantial and long lasting.

Honestly, I feel like Linzin is similar to Zutara in that it's intriguing and initially probably very passionate but that it wouldn't have lasted because the characters can't give one another what they need most. I LOVE PEMZIN. I love how passionately Pema seems to love him and the vibrant children they've created. Tenzin and his kids is also instant comedy, which is a bonus.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 12:10:38 AM »
My headcanon for the Pemzin love story is just so beautiful.

Lin and Tenzin have been together since their late teens.

Tenzin has sort of vaguely known Pema for awhile because she is the daughter of Teo and Ty Lee, but it isn't until he returns to Republic City after some time abroad and settles in on Air Temple Island that they really get to know each other.

Pema, like all Air Acolytes, trains in the airbending forms although she obviously is not a bender herself, and after Tenzin returns to ATI, he takes over the training of the Acolytes from his father (who obvs has important Avatar stuff to do).

Pema quickly becomes one of the top students, not because she's so naturally gifted though with parents like Teo and Ty Lee, how could she not be? but because she works so hard, in order to impress Tenzin.  Despite herself, she finds herself falling for her much older teacher.

By this point, Lin and Tenzin, though they do genuinely care for each other (Lin probably more than Tenzin), are mostly together out of familiarity and habit.  As insane as it is, Tenzin feels... something... for the pretty young Acolyte who's half his age, but... well, she's half his age.

After many lengthy talks with Avatar Aang, who always did have a soft spot for Teo's youngest daughter Pema finally works up the nerve to confess her love to Tenzin.

Following a lengthy struggle with himself, Tenzin finally has to submit to the inevitable. Despite the age difference between them, despite his long-standing relationship with Lin, despite all the things about it that don't make sense... he's in love with this plucky, sweet, sarcastic young woman, and there's really nothing he can do about it at this point.  He calls things off with Lin.

And then... Pemzin happens.  And it's amazing. And it makes both of them happier than they've ever been.

And in the background, Avatar Aang strokes his beard and just grins.

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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 12:15:00 AM »
My headcanon for the Pemzin love story is just so beautiful.

Lin and Tenzin have been together since their late teens.

Tenzin has sort of vaguely known Pema for awhile because she is the daughter of Teo and Ty Lee, but it isn't until he returns to Republic City after some time abroad and settles in on Air Temple Island that they really get to know each other.

Pema, like all Air Acolytes, trains in the airbending forms although she obviously is not a bender herself, and after Tenzin returns to ATI, he takes over the training of the Acolytes from his father (who obvs has important Avatar stuff to do).

Pema quickly becomes one of the top students, not because she's so naturally gifted though with parents like Teo and Ty Lee, how could she not be? but because she works so hard, in order to impress Tenzin.  Despite herself, she finds herself falling for her much older teacher.

By this point, Lin and Tenzin, though they do genuinely care for each other (Lin probably more than Tenzin), are mostly together out of familiarity and habit.  As insane as it is, Tenzin feels... something... for the pretty young Acolyte who's half his age, but... well, she's half his age.

After many lengthy talks with Avatar Aang, who always did have a soft spot for Teo's youngest daughter Pema finally works up the nerve to confess her love to Tenzin.

Following a lengthy struggle with himself, Tenzin finally has to submit to the inevitable. Despite the age difference between them, despite his long-standing relationship with Lin, despite all the things about it that don't make sense... he's in love with this plucky, sweet, sarcastic young woman, and there's really nothing he can do about it at this point.  He calls things off with Lin.

And then... Pemzin happens.  And it's amazing. And it makes both of them happier than they've ever been.

And in the background, Avatar Aang strokes his beard and just grins.

Melon Lord, this is my new headcanon!

Also, the idea of Pema being Teo and Ty Lee's daughter is genius! Not that you ever mentioned it or anything.
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Re: Tenma General Discussion!
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 12:29:46 AM »
Aang really would do something like that. And I can imagine this happening between Aang and Katara whenever Pemzin finally happened:

"What's with that smile, Aang?"

"Smile? I have no idea what you're talking about, dear."

"You knew this was going to happen, didn't you?"

"I just trusted my Avatar instincts. ;)"



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